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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:36 am
 


Title: After mistakenly letting people buy prohibited guns, RCMP tells owners to give them up
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-05-16 07:10:40
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more comical BS from the RCMP and just goes to show how much of a complete waste of time our firearms law really are.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:43 am
 


Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:10 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.



Yeah, just look at the Ruger 10/22 magazine debacle.



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:13 am
 


PluggyRug wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.



Yeah, just look at the Ruger 10/22 magazine debacle.


They had to put out two notices to explain that, and they still didn't give any reason why to begin with.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bull ... 72-eng.htm
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/noti ... 27-eng.htm


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:13 am
 


Made all the more ridiculous when a .50 is unrestricted.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:23 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.


You folks don't have any actual rights yet you're always shocked and offended when your rulers remind you of this fact.

[popcorn]


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BartSimpson wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.


You folks don't have any actual rights yet you're always shocked and offended when your rulers remind you of this fact.

[popcorn]


Do you sit around all day looking for ways to make yourself look like more of an idiot?


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Coach85 wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Especially if the RCMP are the sole source for what is restricted and what is not.


You folks don't have any actual rights yet you're always shocked and offended when your rulers remind you of this fact.

[popcorn]


Do you sit around all day looking for ways to make yourself look like more of an idiot?


He's off base, but not totally wrong.

The RCMP, the enforcers of the law, are the ones creating the law in this case. Much of the gun restrictions are, what I'd call, 'arbitrary'. Which is what the former RCMP officer who filed these FOI requests set out to show us.

I can show you two functionally equivalent rifles; same length, same calibre, same action. One is restricted, the other is not. One is allowed for hunting, one is not. Arbitrary.


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DrCaleb wrote:

He's off base, but not totally wrong.

The RCMP, the enforcers of the law, are the ones creating the law in this case. Much of the gun restrictions are, what I'd call, 'arbitrary'. Which is what the former RCMP officer who filed these FOI requests set out to show us.

I can show you two functionally equivalent rifles; same length, same calibre, same action. One is restricted, the other is not. One is allowed for hunting, one is not. Arbitrary.


To make a sweeping comment about Canadians having no rights is totally wrong any way you look at it.


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Coach85 wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:

He's off base, but not totally wrong.

The RCMP, the enforcers of the law, are the ones creating the law in this case. Much of the gun restrictions are, what I'd call, 'arbitrary'. Which is what the former RCMP officer who filed these FOI requests set out to show us.

I can show you two functionally equivalent rifles; same length, same calibre, same action. One is restricted, the other is not. One is allowed for hunting, one is not. Arbitrary.


To make a sweeping comment about Canadians having no rights is totally wrong any way you look at it.


Like I said, off base. But he does have a point that an unelected and unaccountable police force is making law in our country. You can't even challenge their decisions in court, because it's not law. We don't have that right.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:50 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Coach85 wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:

He's off base, but not totally wrong.

The RCMP, the enforcers of the law, are the ones creating the law in this case. Much of the gun restrictions are, what I'd call, 'arbitrary'. Which is what the former RCMP officer who filed these FOI requests set out to show us.

I can show you two functionally equivalent rifles; same length, same calibre, same action. One is restricted, the other is not. One is allowed for hunting, one is not. Arbitrary.


To make a sweeping comment about Canadians having no rights is totally wrong any way you look at it.


Like I said, off base. But he does have a point that an unelected and unaccountable police force is making law in our country. You can't even challenge their decisions in court, because it's not law. We don't have that right.

If it's not law how can they arrest you for it? What's the charge?


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:04 am
 


Coach85 wrote:
To make a sweeping comment about Canadians having no rights is totally wrong any way you look at it.


You don't have the right to free speech, you don't have the right to own property, you don't have the right to be silent or have an attorney present when facing charges from your government, you don't have the right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment, you don't have the right to be safe from arbitrary rendition to foreign governments, and you do not have the right to self defense or the right to defend your family.

But you do have a nice health care program. :|


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If it's not law how can they arrest you for it?


Because they can.


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Tricks wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
Coach85 wrote:

To make a sweeping comment about Canadians having no rights is totally wrong any way you look at it.


Like I said, off base. But he does have a point that an unelected and unaccountable police force is making law in our country. You can't even challenge their decisions in court, because it's not law. We don't have that right.

If it's not law how can they arrest you for it? What's the charge?


The legislation says the RCMP decides what is classed as non-restricted, restricted or prohibited. They also control the licenses on those categories, as well as the grandfathered weapons.

A 20 shot magazine for a .22 Long Rifle will net you jail time because it's deemed 'prohibited' even though it was a common item in gun stores for decades. RCMP decided that.

But, like you wrote, a .50 calibre rifle that is more than capable of putting a hole in a concrete wall and the three people on the other side - non-restricted. Also an RCMP decision.

And the legislation also says that the RCMP issues travel permits so you can take your grandfathered fully automatic rifle to the gun range. But it doesn't say that the RCMP has to provide the mechanism to issue those permits, so by not setting up any mechanism to issue the permits, the RCMP effectively has those owners confined to their own property.


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