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Title: Alberta�s oilsands create �big carbon footprint,� Obama says
Category: Environmental
Posted By: stemmer
Date: 2009-02-18 06:01:03
Canadian

[stemmer]

Please inform Obama, China will buy any of our oil the USA doesn't want...

Statements like this will not win Obama many friends in Alberta...

[llama66]

it *is* a large carbon footprint, and it does take quite a bit of effort to convert it into oil, Obama was calling it what it is. The United States knows they cant just turn off the taps, we supply them with 2 million barrels a day, its in their best interest to help us develop new tech that will reduce the carbon footprint of the oil sands, and create new and greener sources of energy.

[mtbr]

Obama unlikely to wade into oil sands debate

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/589091

[stemmer]

So Obama would rather purchase clean oil from the Saudi's then dirty oil from Alberta?

[hurley_108]

stemmer wrote:

Please inform Obama, China will buy any of our oil the USA doesn't want...

Statements like this will not win Obama many friends in Alberta...

So it's okay to sell to China, but not to buy from them?

[stemmer]

IF our allies don't want to buy from us then we have no options...

AND for the record I never said we should not buy imports...WHAT I did say is we should first and foremost support our own North American corporations...

In some cases we have no option but to buy imports... Unless you know of a Canadian province that grows bananas or a NA company that makes cameras....

[hurley_108]

stemmer wrote:

IF our allies don't want to buy from us then we have no options...

Or keep it in the ground until we need it ourselves.

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AND for the record I never said we should not buy imports...WHAT I did say is we should first and foremost support our own North American corporations...

In some cases we have no option but to buy imports... Unless you know of a Canadian province that grows bananas or a NA company that makes cameras....

Do you NEED bananas? No. Do you NEED a camera? No. Do without if you feel that strongly about it.

[stemmer]

BUT I need a camera... Honest !!!!!

Bananas? Everyone should eat a good balanced diet... Look in the mirror Hurley and ask yourself if that cheeseburger & fries diet is really good for ya'....

[hurley_108]

stemmer wrote:

BUT I need a camera... Honest !!!!!

Oh, right, to take those pictures of those cars you like and think everyone should buy.

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Bananas? Everyone should eat a good balanced diet... Look in the mirror Hurley and ask yourself if that cheeseburger & fries diet is really good for ya'....

Oh! Snap! You showed me.

[stemmer]

Hurley...please stop the play acting unless you really think chicks are attracted to overweight, dim witted blokes.... I know you're much smarter then that....

[N_Fiddledog]

hurley_108 wrote:

stemmer wrote:

IF our allies don't want to buy from us then we have no options...

Or keep it in the ground until we need it ourselves.

Here's another alternative, off the top of my head. Wonder if it would work. Publicly we express a willingness to negotiate, but privately we're more hard line.

From that platform, we wait, and see how serious Obama is about energy regulations in his own country. If he goes hard line, American industry is going to look for another place to go. They're already making plans. At this point rather than jump on his band wagon, we open Canada up as a place to go for setting up new manufacturing and the like. While he's over-regulating, and forcing American industry out, we under-regulate, offer incentives, and make Canada attractive to American industry encouraging it to move here. That's what we do with Canadian energy resources. Support the new booming Canadian manufacturing industry.

[stemmer]

John McCain would welcome our dirty oil...

[N_Fiddledog]

Yeah, we could just wait 4 years, and sell it to Sarah. What they still need, after opening up Alaska, and the off-shore, I mean.

[DrJones]

You'd think Obama would be more interested in helping to clean up the oil if it's so offensive to him, rather than continue to spend billions of American dollars on oil from authoritarian regimes in the middle-east that are either actively or subvertly supporting terrorists or at least destablizing the region.

But that would require a nuanced position, rather than simply slamming "dirty" oil to make a superficially attractive point to score up some political points.