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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:03 am
 


Title: As Russian Military Moves into Thawing Arctic, U.S. Strategy Shifts
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2019-03-11 09:17:47
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:03 am
 


Great, the pieces for the Great War of the North are moving into place.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:45 am
 


The Arctic is not thawing.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:49 am
 


The Empirical evidence would state otherwise, ships have begun to use the Northwest Passage.
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/shippi ... ly-triples


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:58 pm
 


llama66 wrote:
The Empirical evidence would state otherwise, ships have begun to use the Northwest Passage.
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/shippi ... ly-triples


The actual data shows that ship traffic in the NWP is still very rare.

https://map.astd.is/share/ea58baecfc69

The other thing to be considered is that there's more going on in the Arctic these days than back in 1990.

Most of the ship traffic is government vessels going north to study global warming and it would appear that they're using their own research activities as 'proof' that there's more traffic in the Arctic.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:17 pm
 


Have these generals been fired yet for speaking in a manner contrary to official administration policy? :?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:20 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
Have these generals been fired yet for speaking in a manner contrary to official administration policy? :?


Meh, they just won't get promoted is all. Terminal rank is the operational phrase for some of these people.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:08 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
The Arctic is not thawing.


ROTFL


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:53 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
The Arctic is not thawing.






BartSimpson wrote:
llama66 wrote:
The Empirical evidence would state otherwise, ships have begun to use the Northwest Passage.
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/shippi ... ly-triples


The actual data shows that ship traffic in the NWP is still very rare.

https://map.astd.is/share/ea58baecfc69

The other thing to be considered is that there's more going on in the Arctic these days than back in 1990.


Maritime traffic in the Canadian Arctic has exploded in the last 30 years:

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Nonetheless, preliminary federal data shows the Arctic is indeed opening to more ships: the number of voyages through the federally monitored area reached an all-time high in 2018, up more than 400 per cent during the past three-and-a-half decades.

Bulk carriers, tankers, tug boats, cargo ships, fishing boats, cruise ships and even personal yachts all contributed to the rise in traffic, which has coincided with increased economic diversification in Nunavut. Mining, for example, now accounts for 21.5 per cent of the territory’s economy, up from less than four per cent a decade ago, according to the rating agency DBRS Ltd.


https://business.financialpost.com/comm ... -the-north


BartSimpson wrote:
Most of the ship traffic is government vessels going north to study global warming and it would appear that they're using their own research activities as 'proof' that there's more traffic in the Arctic.


Not entirely true - now you've got huge tankers, freighters and even cruise ships like the Crystal Serenity in the Arctic in the summer months.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ommunities


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:56 am
 


Maybe someone will find that North West Passage people have been looking for. ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:22 am
 


The sea ice coverage in the Arctic *right now* is right on par with where it was in 1981.

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2019/02/


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:33 am
 


stratos wrote:
Maybe someone will find that North West Passage people have been looking for. ;)

Found it!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:37 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
The sea ice coverage in the Arctic *right now* is right on par with where it was in 1981.

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2019/02/


But the concentration (thickness) isn't.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:23 am
 


That round dark spot of ice was likely very thick.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:24 am
 


And where is it now?


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