[saturn_656]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

When I was in high School we had MacKay residence in town. Many of the kids that stayed there were from Pukatawagan and other northern Manitoba bands. They received the same schooling as the rest of us...if they chose to show up. they only ate and slept at the residence and went to the same school as the rest of us.

Maybe the whole being "paid to show up" is meant to resolve the attendance problem... but just because someone sits in class, doesn't mean they are learning.

You can't pay somebody to learn, either they want to or they don't.

[Macguyver]

1) Everyone has an opinion but no real grasp of the scope of the problem and no real solution. Just alot of jerking each other off. And truthfully that's awesome because see B:
2) You all got thousands of posts here but no one really cares what you think, thank god. Seems to me alot of you should get out of the house more often.
3) All your bitching and complaining and ignorance feeds the issue, and instead of exploring the problems and understanding them, everyone's got to kick the poorest of our poor and their children. That is a fucking disgrace. But hey, if you're with the group that feeds their egos with circle jerk rep points, typically you're feeding that same ego by kicking those who are worse off then us.

Now you can all sit there and shit on the floor and tell everyone how nice it smells, like we've been doing for 200 years with the Aboriginal people, or you can figure out a solution. You can stay on the ignorance/prejudice band wagon and do your best not to understand the problems or you can jump off it and take a close look at the issue and try to add something meaningful.

It is a problem of our own making and its going to take a shitload of time and money to resolve. Or we can keep paying for it. And you can call me an asshole and a crybaby and tell me to jerk myself off, but you're still going to be paying for the mess we are in. You can propose cutting them off or forcibly relocating them or genocide but that is not going to happen because we have laws and a reputation that take precedence to your ignorance.

So when you're done jerking each other off why don't we have a productive discussion about solutions. Just make sure you wash your hands first.

[OnTheIce]

Macguyver wrote:

1) Everyone has an opinion but no real grasp of the scope of the problem and no real solution. Just alot of jerking each other off. And truthfully that's awesome because see B:
2) You all got thousands of posts here but no one really cares what you think, thank god. Seems to me alot of you should get out of the house more often.
3) All your bitching and complaining and ignorance feeds the issue, and instead of exploring the problems and understanding them, everyone's got to kick the poorest of our poor and their children. That is a fucking disgrace. But hey, if you're with the group that feeds their egos with circle jerk rep points, typically you're feeding that same ego by kicking those who are worse off then us.

Now you can all sit there and shit on the floor and tell everyone how nice it smells, like we've been doing for 200 years with the Aboriginal people, or you can figure out a solution. You can stay on the ignorance/prejudice band wagon and do your best not to understand the problems or you can jump off it and take a close look at the issue and try to add something meaningful.

It is a problem of our own making and its going to take a shitload of time and money to resolve. Or we can keep paying for it. And you can call me an asshole and a crybaby and tell me to jerk myself off, but you're still going to be paying for the mess we are in. You can propose cutting them off or forcibly relocating them or genocide but that is not going to happen because we have laws and a reputation that take precedence to your ignorance.

So when you're done jerking each other off why don't we have a productive discussion about solutions. Just make sure you wash your hands first.

You've been asked to provide numbers to back your claims. You haven't done so.

You haven't offered any solutions yourself....so who are you to challenge us to come up with solutions?

Try stepping up to the plate before you take jabs at people that have already offered solutions that are based on actual reserve experience.

In the end, you're no better than the people you're insulting here. You've offered up nothing but empty rhetoric based on nothing but reading articles on the Internet.

[Gunnair]

Macguyver wrote:

1) Everyone has an opinion but no real grasp of the scope of the problem and no real solution. Just alot of jerking each other off. And truthfully that's awesome because see B:
2) You all got thousands of posts here but no one really cares what you think, thank god. Seems to me alot of you should get out of the house more often.
3) All your bitching and complaining and ignorance feeds the issue, and instead of exploring the problems and understanding them, everyone's got to kick the poorest of our poor and their children. That is a fucking disgrace. But hey, if you're with the group that feeds their egos with circle jerk rep points, typically you're feeding that same ego by kicking those who are worse off then us.

Now you can all sit there and shit on the floor and tell everyone how nice it smells, like we've been doing for 200 years with the Aboriginal people, or you can figure out a solution. You can stay on the ignorance/prejudice band wagon and do your best not to understand the problems or you can jump off it and take a close look at the issue and try to add something meaningful.

It is a problem of our own making and its going to take a shitload of time and money to resolve. Or we can keep paying for it. And you can call me an asshole and a crybaby and tell me to jerk myself off, but you're still going to be paying for the mess we are in. You can propose cutting them off or forcibly relocating them or genocide but that is not going to happen because we have laws and a reputation that take precedence to your ignorance.

So when you're done jerking each other off why don't we have a productive discussion about solutions. Just make sure you wash your hands first.

Really, you've sat back, offered nothing, and demanded everything from the posters here while crying your eyes out that you're being neg repped. Fact is is you're acting like a puling dickhead here. Stop jumping up and down in a rage because the clique that is CKA won't accept you (mostly because you're a puling dickhead) and offer up your own ideas for debate.

I suspect you'd find that you can actually have a decent debate and dialog when you don't come into the conversation like:

a) Eureka - lay out how it is, accept no other opinion, and chastise those that offer them and then wonder why it turns into a flamefest; and

b) Macguyver - lay out the issue, tell everyone how ignorant they are of it, but provide nothing of substance to the debate while demanding everyone else do the work for you.

Oops - you are Macguyver. Well, you get the hint.

I'd like to think you are capable of sucking back and reloading, but I haven't seen it so far. Maybe you and Eureka can have the anti- Thanos/Zip competition of who reaches -100 rep points first. Eureka has quite a lead but I suspect from your posts that you can catch up. Maybe if you can convince Andy to turn his rep points on, you three can glad hand each other.

[Curtman]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Quote:

EVERYONE IN THE CIRCLE JERK NEGATIVE REP HERE - Oh look we've got Gunny and Bart and Sdog - way to band together. Smiles everywhere on CKA lol

You don't get neg repped here because people disagree with your ideas. Plenty of members here have disagreed on topics that have become rather heated, yet neg reps aren't handed out. You and one other get it because most people here think............ you're assholes.

Yes you do. If you guys don't agree with someone then you attack relentlessly. You are completely incapable of having a discussion with someone you don't agree with without resorting to personal insults and libel.

Time and time again. It's a waste of time even responding to you, but sometimes it's fun just to see your response.

[Thanos]

^ You began here with "Stephen Harper's worse than Hitler because he won't legalize my dope for me", or something else equally idiotic. After that how seriously were the rest of us supposed to take you?

[Curtman]

Thanos wrote:

^ You began here with "Stephen Harper's worse than Hitler because he won't legalize my dope for me", or something else equally idiotic. After that how seriously were the rest of us supposed to take you?

There's many reasons to hate Harper. Him being an irrational prohibitionist is only one of them.

[Gunnair]

Curtman wrote:

Thanos wrote:

^ You began here with "Stephen Harper's worse than Hitler because he won't legalize my dope for me", or something else equally idiotic. After that how seriously were the rest of us supposed to take you?

There's many reasons to hate Harper. Him being an irrational prohibitionist is only one of them.