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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:13 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:


But the various other freedoms cover our right to believe what we choose to believe, within limits. Freedom or relgion is a special right accorded certain large multinational religions. It's not concxerned with belief at all, but with the earthly manifestations of what that belief entails, which is why so many freedom of religion cases invovle the right to wear a funny hat. That's all it boils down to really; the right to wear a funny hat, or niqab, or yarmulke, or turban or whatevs. Collanders are out though, apparently.


Well, according to you, you have no problem restricting those rights in a discriminatory fashion, even tho they are exactly freedom of expression and assembly.

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mean? You mean there are or should be limits on what you can think?

The state should treat religions equally. Do something against the state/people, no matter what your religion is, you get spanked. But to say religion A can do x but not religion B, that's just insane. Which is why if we're going to allow headgear exemptions for religious reasons, allow them to everybody, without the state deciding which is legit, which is not.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:16 am
 


andyt andyt:

The state should treat religions equally. Do something against the state/people, no matter what your religion is, you get spanked. But to say religion A can do x but not religion B, that's just insane. Which is why if we're going to allow headgear exemptions for religious reasons, allow them to everybody, without the state deciding which is legit, which is not.



Please, go to Saudi Arabia and say that.

Or Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Iran, Somalia or a couple dozen other places.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:20 am
 


he'd need a passport to be able to do that.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:23 am
 


andyt andyt:
The state should treat religions equally. Do something against the state/people, no matter what your religion is, you get spanked. But to say religion A can do x but not religion B, that's just insane. Which is why if we're going to allow headgear exemptions for religious reasons, allow them to everybody, without the state deciding which is legit, which is not.


That's the system now. I don't agree with it. If you have one religion that believes in peace, love adn charity and another that believers all unbelievers should be slaughtered, I think its madness to treat them the same.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:28 am
 


martin14 martin14:
andyt andyt:

The state should treat religions equally. Do something against the state/people, no matter what your religion is, you get spanked. But to say religion A can do x but not religion B, that's just insane. Which is why if we're going to allow headgear exemptions for religious reasons, allow them to everybody, without the state deciding which is legit, which is not.



Please, go to Saudi Arabia and say that.

Or Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Iran, Somalia or a couple dozen other places.


So your argument is we should be more like those countries?

Funny that the same people bleating about inequality in Muslim countries think it's just fine in Christian ones. (That really should be secular)


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