[Newsbot]

Title: Bombs kill another nuclear scientist in Iran
Category: World
Posted By: Regina
Date: 2012-01-11 06:15:52

[gonavy47]

This has got Mossad written all over it.

[jeff744]

gonavy47 wrote:

This has got Mossad written all over it.

Yup, don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

[martin14]

[jeff744]

martin14 wrote:

[cheer]

And you would be saying the opposite if it was an American or Canadian. Last I checked, murderers are people we put behind bars.

[2Cdo]

gonavy47 wrote:

This has got Mossad written all over it.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

[DrCaleb]

jeff744 wrote:

gonavy47 wrote:

This has got Mossad written all over it.

Yup, don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

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[ShepherdsDog]

Plenty of Israelis have persian backgrounds. jews had lived there for thousands of years prior to 1947(remember Shlomo Finkelstein aka Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) and there was a close relationship during the reign of the Shah. Still the bombings/assasinations make sure that the collateral damage is minimal, as opposed to shock and awe from the skies and off shore ships.

[jeff744]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Plenty of Israelis have persian backgrounds. jews had lived there for thousands of years prior to 1947(remember Shlomo Finkelstein aka Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) and there was a close relationship during the reign of the Shah. Still the bombings/assasinations make sure that the collateral damage is minimal, as opposed to shock and awe from the skies and off shore ships.

And yet random and innocent people are purposely targeted because they chose to follow what they do best. Another great mind has been taken all in the name of preserving "peace".

[RUEZ]

jeff744 wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Plenty of Israelis have persian backgrounds. jews had lived there for thousands of years prior to 1947(remember Shlomo Finkelstein aka Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) and there was a close relationship during the reign of the Shah. Still the bombings/assasinations make sure that the collateral damage is minimal, as opposed to shock and awe from the skies and off shore ships.

And yet random and innocent people are purposely targeted because they chose to follow what they do best. Another great mind has been taken all in the name of preserving "peace".

Well if the Iranians are truly developing nuclear weapons, he's far from innocent.

[jeff744]

RUEZ wrote:

jeff744 wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

Plenty of Israelis have persian backgrounds. jews had lived there for thousands of years prior to 1947(remember Shlomo Finkelstein aka Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) and there was a close relationship during the reign of the Shah. Still the bombings/assasinations make sure that the collateral damage is minimal, as opposed to shock and awe from the skies and off shore ships.

And yet random and innocent people are purposely targeted because they chose to follow what they do best. Another great mind has been taken all in the name of preserving "peace".

Well if the Iranians are truly developing nuclear weapons, he's far from innocent.

Who is better to target? The guy doing the basic science that can be replaced with no difficulty or the person that ordered the project in the first place. This was a pointless death of a smart man that could have contributed to the scientific community, instead politics cut his life short. Who are the real criminals?

[Thanos]

War has it's own logic, even in an undeclared one such as the one between Israel and Iran. If surgical removals of Iranian assets, including human ones like the Iranian scientists, means that an Israeli or American city isn't someday destroyed by an Iranian atomic weapon then selective assassinations today are by far the lesser of two evils.

Don't assume that "scientist=educated=peaceful" is the operating equation here. There's no real reason to assume that the Iranian scientists are only building atomic weapons for Mahmoud because they're under duress. Saddam's WMD scientists were usually members of the Baath Party and were quite dedicated as individuals towards the concept of of a supreme Baathist Iraq dominating the entire region. Most likely the Iranian nuclear program people are as equally dedicated in their own right to the idea of a supreme Iran doing the same thing that Saddam wanted for Iraq.

[jeff744]

Thanos wrote:

War has it's own logic, even in an undeclared one such as the one between Israel and Iran. If surgical removals of Iranian assets, including human ones like the Iranian scientists, means that an Israeli or American city isn't someday destroyed by an Iranian atomic weapon then selective assassinations today are by far the lesser of two evils.

Don't assume that "scientist=educated=peaceful" is the operating equation here. There's no real reason to assume that the Iranian scientists are only building atomic weapons for Mahmoud because they're under duress. Saddam's WMD scientists were usually members of the Baath Party and were quite dedicated as individuals towards the concept of of a supreme Baathist Iraq dominating the entire region. Most likely the Iranian nuclear program people are as equally dedicated in their own right to the idea of a supreme Iran doing the same thing that Saddam wanted for Iraq.

I find it interesting that the automatic assumption is that Iran will use the nukes, North Korea has them but hasn't launched one yet and I am pretty sure Iran is more sane by a fair bit. The other point is how strange it is that you seem to need a US stamp of approval to build an atomic weapon when the US has shown the least ability to seek a peaceful solution. All this did was show everyone how little Israel/America care for human life and that apparently it is better to kill one of the many shop workers instead of the shop manager.

Iran is one of the few countries in the region that can be reasoned with but it seems the entire world prefers to shoot first and ask questions later. If you continue to back an animal into a corner and then hurt it, don't be surprised when it finally bites you.

[RUEZ]

jeff744 wrote:

Thanos wrote:

War has it's own logic, even in an undeclared one such as the one between Israel and Iran. If surgical removals of Iranian assets, including human ones like the Iranian scientists, means that an Israeli or American city isn't someday destroyed by an Iranian atomic weapon then selective assassinations today are by far the lesser of two evils.

Don't assume that "scientist=educated=peaceful" is the operating equation here. There's no real reason to assume that the Iranian scientists are only building atomic weapons for Mahmoud because they're under duress. Saddam's WMD scientists were usually members of the Baath Party and were quite dedicated as individuals towards the concept of of a supreme Baathist Iraq dominating the entire region. Most likely the Iranian nuclear program people are as equally dedicated in their own right to the idea of a supreme Iran doing the same thing that Saddam wanted for Iraq.

I find it interesting that the automatic assumption is that Iran will use the nukes, North Korea has them but hasn't launched one yet and I am pretty sure Iran is more sane by a fair bit. The other point is how strange it is that you seem to need a US stamp of approval to build an atomic weapon when the US has shown the least ability to seek a peaceful solution. All this did was show everyone how little Israel/America care for human life and that apparently it is better to kill one of the many shop workers instead of the shop manager.

Iran is one of the few countries in the region that can be reasoned with but it seems the entire world prefers to shoot first and ask questions later. If you continue to back an animal into a corner and then hurt it, don't be surprised when it finally bites you.

Holy shit. I think you need to so some research on Iran and it's leadership.

[jeff744]

RUEZ wrote:

jeff744 wrote:

Thanos wrote:

War has it's own logic, even in an undeclared one such as the one between Israel and Iran. If surgical removals of Iranian assets, including human ones like the Iranian scientists, means that an Israeli or American city isn't someday destroyed by an Iranian atomic weapon then selective assassinations today are by far the lesser of two evils.

Don't assume that "scientist=educated=peaceful" is the operating equation here. There's no real reason to assume that the Iranian scientists are only building atomic weapons for Mahmoud because they're under duress. Saddam's WMD scientists were usually members of the Baath Party and were quite dedicated as individuals towards the concept of of a supreme Baathist Iraq dominating the entire region. Most likely the Iranian nuclear program people are as equally dedicated in their own right to the idea of a supreme Iran doing the same thing that Saddam wanted for Iraq.

I find it interesting that the automatic assumption is that Iran will use the nukes, North Korea has them but hasn't launched one yet and I am pretty sure Iran is more sane by a fair bit. The other point is how strange it is that you seem to need a US stamp of approval to build an atomic weapon when the US has shown the least ability to seek a peaceful solution. All this did was show everyone how little Israel/America care for human life and that apparently it is better to kill one of the many shop workers instead of the shop manager.

Iran is one of the few countries in the region that can be reasoned with but it seems the entire world prefers to shoot first and ask questions later. If you continue to back an animal into a corner and then hurt it, don't be surprised when it finally bites you.

Holy shit. I think you need to so some research on Iran and it's leadership.

I have, and I have yet to have seen Iran go out and sink an Israeli ship just to piss them off. Iran is a lot more sane than people seem to believe, hell, America and Russia took the world within inches of being wiped out several times. But we are still expected to trust them with the vast arsenals.