[Vanina]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7438079.stm

The Catholic Church in Canada has apparently never apologised to the Native Canadians for its role in the genocide in the residential schools.

If this is true, then the Catholic Church should apologise without delay and also be a part of the healing process.

[ShepherdsDog]

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

[Mustang1]

It's not genocide. Some people need to drop the cheap emotional rhetoric.

[ShepherdsDog]

'School will set you free'

[Wada]

OhYah and some are not taking the situation as serious as they should. What to do?

[Vanina]

Reminds one of how one can trivialise national tragedies towards an entire people.

[Donny_Brasco]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

I guess 50,000 dead or missing children is just ...another good day for the KKK?

Quote:

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

While precise definition varies among genocide scholars, a legal definition is found in the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Article 2, of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[1]

So "destroying the indian in the child" was NOT genocide?

killing members of the group; CHECK
causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; CHECK
deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; CHECK
[and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another groupCHECK

Is there a defence to kidnapping and murdering children? I'm sure you have one, I have that much faith that you are beyond evil.

[Mr_Canada]

The Protestants apologized. The Catholics should now too, I agree.

Good luck with the Catholics. Mind aswell stand in line, they've probably displaces more white children so far then they did Natives.

[Biblical_Christian]

Mr_Canada wrote:

The Protestants apologized. The Catholics should now too, I agree.

Good luck with the Catholics. Mind aswell stand in line, they've probably displaces more white children so far then they did Natives.

Prove please.

[Mr_Canada]

Biblical_Christian wrote:

Mr_Canada wrote:

The Protestants apologized. The Catholics should now too, I agree.

Good luck with the Catholics. Mind aswell stand in line, they've probably displaces more white children so far then they did Natives.

Prove please.

Serious?

The United Church of Canada (Protestants) apologized for their part in the native affair.

Here's a 1998 letter, asshole:

http://sisis.nativeweb.org/resschool/oct2798uc.html

[Biblical_Christian]

Mind aswell stand in line, they've probably displaces more white children so far then they did Natives.[/quote]Prove this one.

[Mustang1]

Donny_Brasco wrote:

ShepherdsDog wrote:

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

I guess 50,000 dead or missing children is just ...another good day for the KKK?

Quote:

Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.

While precise definition varies among genocide scholars, a legal definition is found in the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Article 2, of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[1]

So "destroying the indian in the child" was NOT genocide?

killing members of the group; CHECK
causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; CHECK
deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; CHECK
[and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another groupCHECK

Is there a defence to kidnapping and murdering children? I'm sure you have one, I have that much faith that you are beyond evil.

Wow...long on rhetoric and misinterpretation and misrepresentation and short on comprehension and objective application. In short - you messed up. The key term (and it's important) is "INTENT". There is no objective (that means no garbage websites or uneducated wannabes or agenda pushers) evidence to suggest that the Canadian government systemically acted in a manner with intent to deliberately destroy members of this culture. None. Cultural genocide, maybe, but that's semantics and it cheapens the term, so lose the empty rhetoric and save your agenda for others.

[hurley_108]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

This time I agree with you.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

I'm wiht you. You throw it around too much, it loses its meaning.

What we did to the Indians was horrible. It was a Orwellian attempt to expunge their culture.

To me, to call it genocide is an attempt to morally compare Canada's treatment of native's to the Holocaust. But it does not compare with the deliberate and systematic enslavement and annihilation of six million Jews and Jehovah's Witnesses, as my brother constantly reminds me!)

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog wrote:

People are using this word genocide far too lightly.

I'm with you. You throw it around too much, it loses its meaning.

What we did to the Indians was horrible. It was a Orwellian attempt to expunge their culture.

To me, to call it genocide is an attempt to morally compare Canada's treatment of native's to the Holocaust. But it does not compare with the deliberate and systematic enslavement and annihilation of six million Jews (and Jehovah's Witnesses, as my brother constantly reminds me!)