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andyt
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:07 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The odd Western hunter who pays $50,000 or more for the privilege of killing an old, sick, or lame animal is helping to keep the other animals alive.
Sure, that's what trophy hunters (or even meat hunters) do: pick out the old, sick, and lame. More BPB*. *Bart's Patented Bullshit. If hunters really did hunt that way, there wouldn't be half the problems about decimation of species.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:07 pm
Hunters =/= poachers
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:08 pm
From email: $1: Both social media and the progressive mainstream media have been in an uproar over the past few days about the death of “Cecil,” a 13-year-old lion in Zimbabwe.
Cecil was killed in an organized licensed hunt by a big game hunter, Minnesota dentist Dr. Walter Palmer, who has now gone into hiding after receiving numerous death threats from outraged animal rights activists.
However, it would appear that the outrage surrounding the death of Cecil is what is commonly known as a “First World Problem,” as residents of Zimbabwe were mostly unaware of, and really don’t care about, the death of just another lion.
“What lion?” was the response of acting Information Minister Prisca Mupfumira, after being asked about the death of Cecil.
Though the government had yet to give an official response to the lion hunt, local authorities opened an investigation into whether the professional guides who led the hunt abided by the rules and regulations in place for such things.
According to Yahoo News, that hasn’t stopped angry animal rights and anti-hunting activists from ruining the life of Dr. Palmer, with some calling for his arrest, extradition and even death for hunting the lion with a bow and arrow and finishing it off with a gun.
But most people in Zimbabwe don’t care about the dead lion, as they have much greater problems to deal with, such as an 80 percent unemployment rate, insane monetary inflation and a hugely corrupt government.
“Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country,” said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. “What is so special about this one?”
The truth is, most locals in Zimbabwe actually look forward to the big game hunts that Westerners engage in, as the high price tag for the hunts means money pumped into the local economy, not to mention the meat from such hunts is required by law to be given to local tribes and villages.
“Why are the Americans more concerned than us?” said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father of two. “We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange.”
Lions and other large animals are typically viewed as dangerous by the local population, and if these animals are not hunted, their populations will explode and bring about all sorts of other issues, like rampant disease and increased attacks on people.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:11 pm
If your god existed I could think of no more fitting punishment for the human race than if it immediately took away every single animal on this planet and sent them somewhere they'd be forever safe from us.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:14 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: From email: $1: Both social media and the progressive mainstream media have been in an uproar over the past few days about the death of “Cecil,” a 13-year-old lion in Zimbabwe.
Cecil was killed in an organized licensed hunt by a big game hunter, Minnesota dentist Dr. Walter Palmer, who has now gone into hiding after receiving numerous death threats from outraged animal rights activists.
However, it would appear that the outrage surrounding the death of Cecil is what is commonly known as a “First World Problem,” as residents of Zimbabwe were mostly unaware of, and really don’t care about, the death of just another lion.
“What lion?” was the response of acting Information Minister Prisca Mupfumira, after being asked about the death of Cecil.
Though the government had yet to give an official response to the lion hunt, local authorities opened an investigation into whether the professional guides who led the hunt abided by the rules and regulations in place for such things.
According to Yahoo News, that hasn’t stopped angry animal rights and anti-hunting activists from ruining the life of Dr. Palmer, with some calling for his arrest, extradition and even death for hunting the lion with a bow and arrow and finishing it off with a gun.
But most people in Zimbabwe don’t care about the dead lion, as they have much greater problems to deal with, such as an 80 percent unemployment rate, insane monetary inflation and a hugely corrupt government.
“Are you saying that all this noise is about a dead lion? Lions are killed all the time in this country,” said Tryphina Kaseke, a used-clothes hawker on the streets of Harare. “What is so special about this one?”
The truth is, most locals in Zimbabwe actually look forward to the big game hunts that Westerners engage in, as the high price tag for the hunts means money pumped into the local economy, not to mention the meat from such hunts is required by law to be given to local tribes and villages.
“Why are the Americans more concerned than us?” said Joseph Mabuwa, a 33-year-old father of two. “We never hear them speak out when villagers are killed by lions and elephants in Hwange.”
Lions and other large animals are typically viewed as dangerous by the local population, and if these animals are not hunted, their populations will explode and bring about all sorts of other issues, like rampant disease and increased attacks on people.
You can find anything you want to back up any opinion that you want "from E-mail". " As seen on T.V."
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:18 pm
Gosh Bart, how do you imagine that these animals were able to survive tens of thousands of years before rich men were able to fly around the world and kill them "for their own health?"
Newsflash; sick animals don't need Great White hunters to die for "the health of the heard". If they're already not mating and if the illness doesn't get them, a predator will.
And since when do you see trophy hunters with sickly weak trophies? By definition the trophy hunter goes for the biggest and best "trophy" specimen he can find and actually endangers the herd when he kills it.
Gervais' comments in Xerxes post says it all.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:20 pm
Shooting Cecil meant the death of seven healthy lions because undoubtedly the beta-male in their pride has already killed Cecil's most recent batch of cubs.
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andyt
CKA Uber
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:21 pm
Yep. Bighorn sheep ain't so big horned anymore because of hunting pressure. Bart's just full of it as usual.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:23 pm
The really huge tuna are no longer being seen, except in rare occasions, because so many of them are harvested before they mature that practically none of them now have any chance to reach the age that comes with large size.
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rickc
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Posts: 2943
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:30 pm
This guy could be in some really deep shit. The whole world is against him, and it turns out that there is an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Zimbabwe. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wal ... 3f9d1ad47d The U.S. Fish and Wildlife have promised to assist in any manner requested. If this guy was smart, (and he does not look like the sharpest knife in the drawer so far) he would attempt to buy his way out of this ASAP if he can. Its probabally too late. I can't say as though I have any sympathy for him. Everyone loves to see some slimy rich SOB (who things they are above the law) get his comeuppance.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:50 pm
He'did likely have been further ahead if he'd paid the 50 k and asked to hunt some villager on Mugabe's shitlist.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:37 am
QBall QBall: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/lion-zimbabweans-ask-amid-global-cecil-circus-142232231.html
"What lion?" Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus When a loaf of bread costs billions of dollars, it's hard to be concerned about a lion.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:16 am
rickc rickc: This guy could be in some really deep shit. The whole world is against him, and it turns out that there is an extradition treaty between the U.S. and Zimbabwe. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wal ... 3f9d1ad47d The U.S. Fish and Wildlife have promised to assist in any manner requested. If this guy was smart, (and he does not look like the sharpest knife in the drawer so far) he would attempt to buy his way out of this ASAP if he can. Its probabally too late. I can't say as though I have any sympathy for him. Everyone loves to see some slimy rich SOB (who things they are above the law) get his comeuppance. I hope all the anti-death penalty agitators who want this guy sent to Zimbabwe know that if the man gets sent to see justice from Robert Mugabe he's going to either be put to death or he'll be murdered in prison.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:28 am
By the way, liberals, "Cecil" is named after Cecil Rhodes.
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