[Newsbot]

Title: Cop involved in collision faces new allegations
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Robair
Date: 2008-10-30 06:59:29
Canadian

[Robair]

And as we speak this officer is still on paid leave, right? That's nice.

[DrCaleb]

"Those who were there, allege he left the scene, with children in tow. "

CHILDREN! He was driving drunk, with CHILDREN in the car?!? Then left the scene of the accident?

Holy crap.

[2Cdo]

I find it hard to believe that anyone drives drunk these days, let alone a member of the Law Enforcement community, who get to witness the death and destruction that drunk driving can cause. To do this with your kids in the car is truly mind-boggling.

[martin14]

RCMP officer Cpl. Benjamin Montgomery Robinson:


why dont you do us all a big favor, turn yourself in right now,
put your sorry ass in jail.

take some responsibity for what you have done.


oh, and you can actually fess up to your part in the killing of the Pole..

and this guy sits at home with full pay ?? how nice..
Cant beleive the cops are so stupid they continue giving this guy special
protection..


kudos to the reporters for digging this guys name at least..

[TattoodGirl]

I hope there is a presence outside that courthouse when he goes before the bench, just to show we arent going to tolerate this shit anymore. He should not be getting paid. I am just waiting to hear the defence of 'He is under so much stress from the investigation of the Dziezenski(sp) incident, that he needs treatment'...I feel that shit coming from a mile away.

[EyeBrock]

Yep, he should be lynched.

Really people, what this guy did is reprehensible, he is a piece of shit who deserves to go to jail for a very long time.

What is disturbing is the vehement anti-cop sentiment that is going along with these posts.

There are 64,000 Police Officers in Canada. You are painting them all with the same brush. In 64,000 there are bound to be the odd idiots like this guy.

Just remember the vast majority of our Police are out there doing a god job in shitty situations and dealing with things most of us care not to see or even hear about because they want to help people and lock-up bad guys.

This tosser was arrested and once the Crown got off their arses ( The Crowns lay charges in BC, not the Police) he was charged with a chunk of offences, one of them could get him a life sentence. There is no doubt this guy will be going to jail and he will be fired, as he should be.

Some of these posts are just pure hatred against the Police. Not cool.

[martin14]

sorry Eyebrock, but i actually expect the police to obey the law,
on duty or off.

If he gets held to a higher standard, well, that goes with the job.


Problem is, I dont think he is going to jail.
All kinds of BS will be trotted out, from the investigation into the airport,
this incident, i have read he was involved in another shooting as well.

Busy boy...

So we should feel sorry for Bennie, he needs help and pych, its ok he left the
scene, you know he's worried about his kids, and who will take care of the kids,
so I doubt he's going to jail for anything longer than 6 months, if that.

And that is the real injustice here.

Plus the fact the Brotherhood seems to be closing in to protect this guy.. as usual

Thats the not cool part.

[EyeBrock]

martin14 wrote:

sorry Eyebrock, but i actually expect the police to obey the law,
on duty or off.

If he gets held to a higher standard, well, that goes with the job.


Problem is, I dont think he is going to jail.
All kinds of BS will be trotted out, from the investigation into the airport,
this incident, i have read he was involved in another shooting as well.

Busy boy...

So we should feel sorry for Bennie, he needs help and pych, its ok he left the
scene, you know he's worried about his kids, and who will take care of the kids,
so I doubt he's going to jail for anything longer than 6 months, if that.

And that is the real injustice here.

Plus the fact the Brotherhood seems to be closing in to protect this guy.. as usual

Thats the not cool part.

Believe it or not, Police are human off duty. There are plenty of lawyers and doctors who get charged with impaired driving, some with more serious offences. I never see the public baying for their blood like I see in this forum.

Don't kid yourself, this guy will be going to jail and for you to think otherwise just shows a bias.
Tell me of any other occasion where a Police Officer has been treated 'better' than a citizen, besides some oft repeated urban legend?
Even Police being prosecuted are entitled to the same protection and same level of evidence is required to find them guilty.

Or do you think that Police should have less rights than any other citizen?

In Ontario they already do. Police are governed by the Police Services Act which often involves officers being charged twice. Those involved in a vehicle accident and found at fault are charged under the Highway Traffic Act and the Police Services Act.
Then Ontario has the civilian run 'Special Investgations Unit' who's sole purpose is to investigate allegations of criminal behaviour by Police.
I'd say that was a higher standard of accountability than Joe Citizen.

This guy will get his and he'll get at least a 10 year sentence. The Justice system will see him serve half or a third of that but that's the same as any other piece of shit criminal, and he'll be in lock-down all of that.
This is a most serious offence. The days of getting away with killing people drunk ended with a change to the Criminal Code under the Tories.

A little bit of subjectivity from the baying mob on this would be useful.

[TattoodGirl]

Where did I say an anti-cop statement?...I just mentioned at work that he gives a bad name to the badge.

As for the 'he is human' ...yes he is, but he is a sworn officer and is expected to uphold some of those responsibilities on or off duty. This is a poor excuse for a human and a poor excuse for a member. And people should be pissed, we have the right to ask for the fullest sentence possible.

And Police are treated better than civies, when an active investigation is on...they get paid leave. I would never get that would you or anyone else?

[martin14]

we'll see about the 10 years Eyebrock, i'm not holding my breath.

As I said, i do expect better from police officers, they among all
of us should know better.


special treatement:

How come this guy isnt being charged right away ?
How come he's not sitting in a jail cell right now,
waiting for a hearing to make bail ?

wanna answer ?

[karra]

Quote:

( The Crowns lay charges in BC, not the Police)

They do not - in Canada the police lay the charge and the Crown prosecutes - once the charge is laid, and if it is at all shaky - then the Crown and arresting officer(s) as well as anyone in the D-office who may have conducted further investigation, will discuss whether or not it actually proceeds to trial.

This is what distinguishes us from the US where the DA lays the charge. Keep in mind their DA's are elected.

[karra]

Quote:

Then Ontario has the civilian run 'Special Investgations Unit' who's sole purpose is to investigate allegations of criminal behaviour by Police.

Which as you may know has been exposed to be woefully inadequate - see the report from the Ontario Ombudsman, Andre Marin, who used to be the Director of the SIU.

Frequently what we see are situations where a member of the public is pulled over for an HTA offence - the officer smells liquor and makes his breath sample demand - the accused blows over and is charged with both impaired and over - one is always dropped in favor of the charge they feel they have the most prospect of conviction - however, the accused also has an HTA offence to deal with which is adjourned until the criminal matter has been dealt with - if found guilty criminally, the HTA charge is withdrawn - if found not guilty, the HTA charge runs its course.

[DrCaleb]

karra wrote:

Quote:

( The Crowns lay charges in BC, not the Police)

They do not - in Canada the police lay the charge and the Crown prosecutes .

Mmmm, no. The Police present the Crown with evidence and may recommend charges, the Crown files the the charges, or does not as they see fit.

[2Cdo]

TattoodGirl wrote:

And Police are treated better than civies, when an active investigation is on...they get paid leave. I would never get that would you or anyone else?

Actually in my job I would still be at work and getting paid, and I'm not a police officer.