[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

andyt andyt:

what a good idea, because of course all the people in a certain zone think and act the same way. they're mostly the same color, so they must be identical. It's not as if they're white, where they would be individuals with distinct personalities. Nobody there works or is just trying to live a normal life. Even the kids. All the same, you can tell because they all look the same.

Since you don't think that doing what groups like BLM want and getting rid of the police is a good idea, how about this?

In black areas, or ghetto's pull the native card and let them hire their own police forces and police themselves. Then, one of two things will happen. The police killing black thugs will stop along with the incessant whining or, the cities will be overrun with crime, mayhem and dead citizens and when it is they might just come to realize that 99.9% of the police aren't the enemy and it's their kids, neighbours and friends who are the real problem.

Of course that won't fly because then, they couldn't blame whitey for all their ills and it'd put an end to a shitload of SJW myths.

Oh wait, they already tried this in Detroit and we all know how well that's worked out.

You're still doing it. Saying they're all the same, every resident of a neighborhood agrees with BLM, they're all responsible for the crime. Are you responsible for the crime in your neighborhood, or your neighbors? Most blacks in these neighborhoods are trying to live decent lives - it's why they came out to clean up after the riot. Those people realize the police aren't the enemy, but they're not out there yapping away and getting media coverage.

You're doing exactly the same thing as y'all do with Muslims. "They're all the same, they all have identical values, they are one amorphous mass." You don't do it with whites, but because you see these people as "other" you have no problem doing it. It's dispicable.

[llama66]

Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer

[andyt]

putting forth idiotic ideas is also to act. Just not one that does any good.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

We'll cover the bases your way. If the cops encounter a black guy waving a gun around they should let him go. If he blows someone else away with it later it's not as big a deal compared to the cops using violence to stop him.

No, none of your narrative has anything to do with "my way".

You need to understand that police brutality ia never justified, period. Full stop. End of story.

Justified force is justified. Unjustified force is unjustified. How can I break it down for you further so that you get it?

[llama66]

And the force used in this situation was appropriate considering the facts. Don't point or produce a firearm while trying to evade police. This NOT brutality.full stop.

[BeaverFever]

As I said earlier, I'm not weighing in on the specifics of this specific case, just the general concept that justification can be achieved on a racial basis, e.g. to paraphrase: 'Black peoples unjustifiably kill each other all the time so why can't we get a pass on one here and there?m

[Thanos]

It was a stolen gun by the way, and 1000 rounds of ammo went missing too from the original robbery. Your attempt to turn this loser into another Trayvon isn't going to work no matter how hard you try.

[BeaverFever]

What part "of As I said earlier, I'm not weighing in on the specifics of this specific case" did you not understand?

[llama66]

The sad thing is these 'People' are protesting, beating people up and shooting people, all because the Police got it right. This group in Milwaukee are a credit to humanity.

I agree that this does not absolve the Police of any fuck-ups that have committed, but in this case it does show that there is at the very least a percentage of the population that feels they should do as they please. I recently read a reasonably intelligent comment on another forums where by the author said, as much as the police needs to be retrained, so too does the public.

Enough with the false sense of victimhood, and declarations of 'oppression'. There needs to be a complete sea change in many communities, not only in the United States, but around the world.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

andyt andyt:

what a good idea, because of course all the people in a certain zone think and act the same way. they're mostly the same color, so they must be identical. It's not as if they're white, where they would be individuals with distinct personalities. Nobody there works or is just trying to live a normal life. Even the kids. All the same, you can tell because they all look the same.

Since you don't think that doing what groups like BLM want and getting rid of the police is a good idea, how about this?

In black areas, or ghetto's pull the native card and let them hire their own police forces and police themselves. Then, one of two things will happen. The police killing black thugs will stop along with the incessant whining or, the cities will be overrun with crime, mayhem and dead citizens and when it is they might just come to realize that 99.9% of the police aren't the enemy and it's their kids, neighbours and friends who are the real problem.

Of course that won't fly because then, they couldn't blame whitey for all their ills and it'd put an end to a shitload of SJW myths.

Oh wait, they already tried this in Detroit and we all know how well that's worked out.

You're still doing it. Saying they're all the same, every resident of a neighborhood agrees with BLM, they're all responsible for the crime. Are you responsible for the crime in your neighborhood, or your neighbors? Most blacks in these neighborhoods are trying to live decent lives - it's why they came out to clean up after the riot. Those people realize the police aren't the enemy, but they're not out there yapping away and getting media coverage.

You're doing exactly the same thing as y'all do with Muslims. "They're all the same, they all have identical values, they are one amorphous mass." You don't do it with whites, but because you see these people as "other" you have no problem doing it. It's dispicable.

Your thinking for me again and unfortunately once again it's incorrect. I never said they all agree with the assholes in BLM, belong to gangs or even vote Democrat, but since BLM has been given the defacto speaking part for "all" the residents of these communities by the SJW's and media that's who we're left to deal with.

If these people want proper police protection then they should be speaking out publicly against the incorrect facts that BLM and their white champions keep espousing but, more importantly they should be taking responsibility for the actions of their community in the same manner they expect the police to take responsibility for the actions of their officers.

But, we both know that won't happen because, as long as there's a victim culture and it's a self sustaining force for both black and enlightened whites who want to revel in it, nothing will change because people are by nature assholes.

So if these people were willing to march in the 60's to effect change maybe it's time for them get off their asses and have a retro moment in order to stop the bullshit that's being fed to the world by the people who claim to be speaking for all of them.

[2Cdo]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

So #1 it is!

This just in: if a police officer wants to murder a black person, it's ok, because it'll be "a tiny percentage" of black deaths.

Also, there's no such thing as racism

..except anti-white racism,of course..

You're beyond stupid.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

what a good idea, because of course all the people in a certain zone think and act the same way. they're mostly the same color, so they must be identical. It's not as if they're white, where they would be individuals with distinct personalities. Nobody there works or is just trying to live a normal life. Even the kids. All the same, you can tell because they all look the same.

How many White neighbourhoods erupt into violence whenever a White person is killed by police? Which happens at about twice the frequency as Black people.
Now the fuckers have reached the point where they don't care if the person shot was a criminal or not. And THAT is what makes all those protesters, even the peaceful ones, the same.
Police killing an unarmed person, regardless of skin colour, is murder plain and simple. People should protest that shit. But when police kill an armed person, especially when said person points a gun at the police, there's really not much to protest about when it comes to the police.
Of course the media don't help at all. Bet ya didn't hear about this. https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015 ... acquitted/

The man was pulled over for an expired inspection sticker on his vehicle. The cop was acquitted for shooting him twice in the back, while he was face down on the ground and being tasered by her. She claimed he wouldn't stop moving and wouldn't "put his hands where she could see them" while he was being tasered. I'm guessing the stunned c*nt isn't familiar with how electricity effects muscles.
The DOJ didn't care, and the media sure didn't give a shit since it ran counter to the bullshit narrative they're trying to force feed us. Not ONE major media outlet in the US wanted to even touch it.

Oh, and guess what? The people in that community of 5000 inhabitants didn't go off on some full blown chimp out and start destroying innocent people's businesses or properties, as tends to happen anymore whenever the cops kill a Black person, even when said person is an armed criminal.

Christ, some Black guy could go an a mass shooting spree, get gunned down by the police and the fucktards at BLM would STILL be calling for justice and crying about racism. All while the MSM tells us how we should feel sorry for him. Along with accompanying quotes from family and neighbourhood residents proclaiming what a swell guy he was, of course.

[andyt]

Fine, all BLM people are the same. (not really). That doesn't mean the whole community is of one mind. So fling all the strawmen around you want, but treating a whole community as if they are all BLM, as has been suggested here, is just idiotic. The usual seeing the other as an amorphous mass. You do the same with Muslims. You don't do the same with whites tho, because those are "you." Nobody suggested pulling police presence out of Vancouver, because some people rioted. But if those people are all black, well then they're just all the same, and the actions of some represent the actions of the whole group.

[DrCaleb]

llama66 llama66:

And the force used in this situation was appropriate considering the facts. Don't point or produce a firearm while trying to evade police. This NOT brutality.full stop.

[BeaverFever]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

You're beyond stupid.

Another quality post by 2Cdo! Please keep up the valuable contribution!

Do you write for a living?