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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 am
 


Title: Danish journalist covering Indigenous opposition to Trans Mountain pipeline denied entry to Canada
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2020-08-24 08:31:15
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 am
 


Nothing essential about this journalist entering Canada during a pandemic. Much ado about nothing.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 am
 


Nothing essential about this journalist entering Canada during a pandemic. Much ado about nothing.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:04 am
 


Yea, because the government using the pandemic to squash indigenous rights in order to foster an industry that has outlived it's time is not essential.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:49 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Yea, because the government using the pandemic to squash indigenous rights in order to foster an industry that has outlived it's time is not essential.



Outlived it's time and is not essential?

Tell me how in the near future your green energy conglomerate is going to replace the approximately $170 billion dollars annually that the oil sector puts into the economy which is without counting electricity about 6% of our GDP?

Here's the 2012 figures but apparently they're still pretty accurate even after 8 years.

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The production and delivery of oil products, natural gas and electricity in Canada contributes about $170 billion to Canada’s $1.8 trillion gross domestic product (GDP), or just under 10%.


So when you take the 2% off of the 170 billion for electricity you get a total of 166.6 billion dollars And that's just federally. The energy producing provinces one of which you live glean alot more of their provincial income from the oil industry.


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The fossil fuel industry is a larger share, as much as 25%, of the economies of the oil producing provinces, although there are significant refining, pipeline and distribution activities throughout the country. The 1.9% contribution of the electric power industry to Canada’s GDP is more evenly spread across the country, although there is still some provincial variation. The electric power sector generates one percent of Alberta’s GDP, where electricity use is restricted mainly to end uses where there is no practical alternative (lighting, appliances, small motors, telecommunications, and information technology). In contrast, in Quebec, where electricity is used extensively for space and water heat and provides about 40% of all energy end uses in the province, the industry generated 3.4% of provincial GDP.


But what about the "good paying jobs" since the thousands of employees of this non essential industry can't all work at Wendy's?

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While the fuel and electricity industry employs a large number of people by virtue of its size, especially in the oil and gas producing provinces, it is a capital intensive and technologically sophisticated industry and its share of employment is low compared to its share of GDP, especially for the upstream extraction and refining activities. Compared to its 9.7% share of GDP, the energy sector generates only 2.6% of direct employment in the Canadian economy, or about 391,000 jobs in 2012. For the fossil fuel-related industries, employment is heavily concentrated in the producing provinces (except for gas station employment, which is spread evenly throughout the country). Employment in the electric power industry is also spread evenly throughout the country.


http://www.energy-exchange.net/fuel-ele ... er%2010%25.


It took some searching but here's what the "essential" green energy gives back to our countries GDP.

As of 2017, 298,000 Canadians (more than 26,000 in Alberta alone) were employed in Canada’s clean energy sector, which currently represents 3 per cent of Canada’s GDP, or around $57 billion in 2017. For context, the direct contribution of agriculture, fishing, hunting and forestry to our nation’s economy was 2.1 per cent, and of the hotel and restaurant industry, 2.3 per cent.


https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/canadas ... gy-sector/

So let's see. Approximately 166,6 billion vs 57 billion leaves you with a shortfall of 109 billion dollars to our annual GDP. So unless you people have a great idea of how to generate that much annual revenue from Green or other non oil resources it will have to be made up somewhere and that somewhere is going to be out of your pocket through taxes. ROTFL

So, I'd suggest that the oil industry hasn't outlived it's time and is still essential to Canada and the provinces if only financially because it's going to be awhile before the Green energy giants like Li Hejun, of Hanenergy Holdings can make up the financial shortfall, if they ever do.


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So, I'd suggest that the oil industry hasn't outlived it's time and is still essential to Canada and the provinces if only financially because it's going to be awhile before the Green energy giants like Li Hejun, of Hanenergy Holdings can make up the financial shortfall, if they ever do.


With drilling companies shuttered, and companies going bankrupt, I'd say their days are numbered.

Tesla stock hit $2000 a share recently, and will split 5:1 next month - and the company has more market capitalization than Ford and GM combined. It exceeded VW a couple months ago, and will soon overtake Toyota to be the most valuable car company worldwide. Every car company is developing a pure electric vehicle trying to compete, but Tesla has a 10 year head start.

While Petroleum will always have uses, especially in petrochemicals, the market isn't betting on internal combustion as our primary transportation mode any more.

But all of this still doesn't excuse the government squashing indigenous rights in order to prop up corporations.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:23 am
 


The government and the courts clearly stating that Natives can't stop every project in the country on a whim just because they're Natives isn't "quashing" their rights. Native elders can have their say within their own communities but the rest of us are under no obligation whatsoever to live under their opinions. They are not "sacred" and they are certainly no one else's bosses.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:28 am
 


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The government and the courts clearly stating that Natives can't stop every project in the country on a whim just because they're Natives isn't "quashing" their rights. Native elders can have their say within their own communities but the rest of us are under no obligation whatsoever to live under their opinions. They are not "sacred" and they are certainly no one else's bosses.


Of course, but they still have the right to an opinion, and to express that opinion. Stopping a journalist under the guise of Covid-19 is a double rights violation, as journalists have the right to tell their story.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:40 am
 


Why is this even news? Geez.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:46 am
 


Ironic isn't it? If they had let him in like all the other journalists, it wouldn't be news.


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I'm confused... who are we blaming, the Left or the Right? :?


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"I have been denied entry into Canada despite all press accreditation and paperwork in order. Was there to continue [my] documentary and coverage for [DR P1, a Danish news radio station] how the Canadian government uses COVID-19 to continue oil projects in secret and step on Indigenous people. Concerning for international press freedom," he said on social media, in a post which has been translated from Danish to English.


Yes, they used COVID as a cover-up opportunity to bury all the bodies riddled by machine-gun bullets as well as to dig another open bitumen mine the size of the Grand Canyon. This person obviously came here fair & balanced and with a completely objective viewpoint.

And these are the people we lost the information war to, with our own countrymen merrily putting their hands on the knife that got driven into our back. :roll:


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"I have been denied entry into Canada despite all press accreditation and paperwork in order. Was there to continue [my] documentary and coverage for [DR P1, a Danish news radio station] how the Canadian government uses COVID-19 to continue oil projects in secret and step on Indigenous people. Concerning for international press freedom," he said on social media, in a post which has been translated from Danish to English.


Yes, they used COVID as a cover-up opportunity to bury all the bodies riddled by machine-gun bullets as well as to dig another open bitumen mine the size of the Grand Canyon. This person obviously came here fair & balanced and with a completely objective viewpoint.


Reporting doesn't require fairness or balance. Only 'Truth'.


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With the only "truth" being, in the eyes of people like this, that Alberta really is Mordor.

A lot of the time now I really wish I didn't live here. The mental stress caused by what these kind of people keep saying about us, and what they've already deliberately done to us economically, is just too much to put up with some days. :|


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Thanos wrote:
With the only "truth" being, in the eyes of people like this, that Alberta really is Mordor.


You are attributing to this reporter things that he has not said. Denmark, along with other Nordic countries is having their 'Truth and Reconciliation' moments with how they have treated the Sami people; their indigenous peoples; and they have an interest in how countries like Canada have relationships with our first nations.

It may simply be he is holding us to the standards the Supreme Court of Canada has set. Nothing wrong with following our own laws, even if a Dane has to remind us of it.

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A lot of the time now I really wish I didn't live here. The mental stress caused by what these kind of people keep saying about us, and what they've already deliberately done to us economically, is just too much to put up with some days. :|


Pride, or guilt, over the accident of where you happened to be born is a weapon for some people to use against you. Be like me, take no shame over things you had no choice in. Take pride in trying to better yourself despite those trying to tear you down.


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