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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:47 am
 


Title: Electric vehicles to push demand for electricity in Alberta, says AESO
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2021-08-18 06:44:12
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I read that if 20% of vehicles on the road become pure electric, most major cities will have to implement rolling blackouts to accomodate the power requirement.

Start building power plants now! Especially since many municipalities are phasing IC engine out in the next 10 - 15 years.


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...and this is a surprise to who, exactly? :?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:33 am
 


People who don't see gasoline as an energy source?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:12 am
 


raydan raydan:
...and this is a surprise to who, exactly? :?

People who can't think beyond tomorrow morning. That is, most people.

Obviously your Alberta energy company has all the qualifications to operate in Texas.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Rockies we've got all those Greenies already buying over 105 EVs marching because they 'don't see a need' for the Site C dam....


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:29 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I read that if 20% of vehicles on the road become pure electric, most major cities will have to implement rolling blackouts to accomodate the power requirement.


The 'benefits' of EVs just get better and better....

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:06 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I read that if 20% of vehicles on the road become pure electric, most major cities will have to implement rolling blackouts to accomodate the power requirement.

Start building power plants now! Especially since many municipalities are phasing IC engine out in the next 10 - 15 years.


One proposed grid of the future (which includes EVs) envisions using them as batteries of a sort, and when they are parked, the solar panels on their roof (also envisioned and not yet reality), allow them to push power back to the grid, in kind of a give and take fashion.

If that doesn't come to fruition, then we'll need to build a whole lot of these solar power parking lots:



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bootlegga bootlegga:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I read that if 20% of vehicles on the road become pure electric, most major cities will have to implement rolling blackouts to accomodate the power requirement.

Start building power plants now! Especially since many municipalities are phasing IC engine out in the next 10 - 15 years.


One proposed grid of the future (which includes EVs) envisions using them as batteries of a sort, and when they are parked, the solar panels on their roof (also envisioned and not yet reality), allow them to push power back to the grid, in kind of a give and take fashion.

If that doesn't come to fruition, then we'll need to build a whole lot of these solar power parking lots:


The energy density of gasoline means we'll have to have nearly every flat surface as solar panels if we want to replace gas stations with charging stations. Roofs especially, on stores, homes, dog houses. ;)


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Install windmills directly on cars... why hasn't anybody else thought of this? :?


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raydan raydan:
Install windmills directly on cars... why hasn't anybody else thought of this? :?


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Perpetual motion cars! Driving makes the windmill spin, which makes the electricity so it can drive!

I remember trying to explain perpetual motion to a 30 year old employee all hyped up over this miracle "magnet electric motor" he read about on the Internet. I hope he learned something and doesn't get his medical information from the Internet these days...

Don't worry guys, we'll see EVs when the Oil companies invest and learn to manipulate the market as easily as the do with oil.
Just went up ANOTHER 6 cents overnight. Now higher than when oil prices were at their peak years ago.


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raydan raydan:
Install windmills directly on cars... why hasn't anybody else thought of this? :?


They are trying putting small vertical windmills on poles on motorways to make electricity from the wind of cars going by in I think the UK. Anyway it’s a test that they are hoping will make enough to power the lights and maybe add more to the grid. There’s been a lot of movement in wind and batteries of late. It looks promising


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:31 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
bootlegga bootlegga:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I read that if 20% of vehicles on the road become pure electric, most major cities will have to implement rolling blackouts to accomodate the power requirement.

Start building power plants now! Especially since many municipalities are phasing IC engine out in the next 10 - 15 years.


One proposed grid of the future (which includes EVs) envisions using them as batteries of a sort, and when they are parked, the solar panels on their roof (also envisioned and not yet reality), allow them to push power back to the grid, in kind of a give and take fashion.

If that doesn't come to fruition, then we'll need to build a whole lot of these solar power parking lots:


The energy density of gasoline means we'll have to have nearly every flat surface as solar panels if we want to replace gas stations with charging stations. Roofs especially, on stores, homes, dog houses. ;)


Alberta's current ability to generate solar power isn't all that great, but if every home had solar panels, and every office building had solar panel film windows, and parking lots had solar panels, and so on, we'd be able to generate a fair bit. Likely it won't be enough to meet demand, but there's also wind, geothermal, and small modular nuclear reactors to flesh out the generating side of things. Hydrogen fuel cells for large vehicles like semi-trailer trucks and buses seem like a way better option that electric (based on my limited engineering knowledge).

The problem is and always will be the cost.

The initial investment is high and it takes close to a decade to pay off home solar panels, so unless the government steps in to subsidize it, it's probably not going to happen. If the carbon tax survives the election and ratchets up high enough, maybe that will convince most people to switch to solar and EVs from natural gas and ICE vehicles. If not, then we're definitely screwed in the long run.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:52 pm
 


Take your EV into the shop/ Like anything else electronic, as soon as you leave he unplugs it, counts to 10 and plugs it back in. Calls you the next day that it's fixed and hands you a $1500.00 invoice....


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:49 am
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
If the carbon tax survives the election and ratchets up high enough, maybe that will convince most people to switch to solar and EVs from natural gas and ICE vehicles. If not, then we're definitely screwed in the long run.


So, you're okay with people being forced to go in a direction that they might not want to go? Didn't we used to have freedom of choice in this country? Personally, I have no interest in EVs, nor do I want one. If a small percentage of people want to make the switch, that's up to them, but it shouldn't be forced on the rest of us.

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