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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:35 pm
 


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It's written in the melting ice.


Would that make it a fluid language?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:19 am
 


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As if the entire mass of the Greenland ice sheet is going to melt because of a few days of heat. :lol:


And where did you read that? [huh]

Certainly wasn't this article.


No, it was the headline:

Europe's record heat wave moves toward Greenland, threatening world's 2nd largest ice sheet


So, you are saying you only read as far as the headline, and your opinion is drawn from your own personal biases about the headline, not any of the facts in the article?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:20 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
So, you are saying you only read as far as the headline, and your opinion is drawn from your own personal biases about the headline, not any of the facts in the article?


The headline stated an opinion and not a fact so why bother reading the rest of it?


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BartSimpson wrote:
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So, you are saying you only read as far as the headline, and your opinion is drawn from your own personal biases about the headline, not any of the facts in the article?


The headline stated an opinion and not a fact so why bother reading the rest of it?


So, you don't think a unusually hot weather system is a problem for ice? Ice that is important in the regulation of our climate?

And most people read articles to become more informed on topics. If you assume you know what the article will say, that assumption amplifies your cognitive dissonance on the subject, so if your initial assumptions were wrong then they will always be wrong. Reading the article can inform you when your intuition leads you astray, or tell you when it was right.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:23 am
 


A few days of high heat during the summer does NOT threaten the entire ice sheet of Greenland.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:48 am
 


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A few days of high heat during the summer does NOT threaten the entire ice sheet of Greenland.


It does if you're trying to "sell" your news to the world. :wink:


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BartSimpson wrote:
A few days of high heat during the summer does NOT threaten the entire ice sheet of Greenland.


And yet, it does. It increases the melt rate of the ice, and further melts sea ice which was already at record lows. That missing ice contributes to albedo, where the suns' heat is no longer reflected off the ice, but absorbed by the sea further increasing temperatures and adding to the cycle.

If the article could be entirely summarized in the title, there would be no need for the article.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:08 pm
 


It's a self perpetuating cycle.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:17 am
 


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The Greenland ice sheet is in the throes of one of its greatest melting events ever recorded

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A satellite image shows melt ponds on the surface of the northeastern Greenland ice sheet on July 30. (ESA/Sentinel-2)



By Jason Samenow and
Andrew Freedman
July 31 at 11:31 AM

The same heat dome that roasted Europe and broke national temperature records in five countries last week has shifted to Greenland, where it is causing one of the biggest melt events ever observed on the fragile ice sheet.

By some measures, the ice melt is more extreme than during a benchmark record event in July 2012, according to scientists analyzing the latest data. During that event, about 98 percent of the ice sheet experienced some surface melting, speeding up the process of shedding ice into the ocean.

The fate of Greenland’s ice sheet is of critical importance to every coastal resident in the world, since Greenland is already the biggest contributor to modern-day sea level rise. The pace and extent of Greenland ice melt will help determine how high sea levels climb and how quickly.

As a result of both surface melting and a lack of snow on the ice sheet this summer, “this is the year Greenland is contributing most to sea level rise,” said Marco Tedesco, a climate scientist at Columbia University.

To illustrate the magnitude of ice contained in Greenland, consider that if the entire ice sheet were to melt, it would raise sea levels by 23 feet. Scientists are using aircraft, field research, satellites and other tools to improve their understanding of how quickly ice is being lost.

Jason Box, a climate scientist who studies Greenland’s ice sheet, examined recent field data from two locations on the ice sheet, both of which showed more ice loss so far during this event than in 2012.

At one location, 75 miles east of Nuuk, Greenland’s capital, the equivalent of 8.33 feet of water (2.54 meters) had melted as of July 31, slightly exceeding the value of 8.27 feet (2.52 meters) from 2012.
At another location 497 miles to the north, the equivalent of 7.38 feet (2.25 meters) of water had melted, topping the record of 6.30 feet (1.92 meters) in 2012. In an email, Box said the 2019 melt at this location is twice the average over the last decade.

The Danish Meteorological Institute tweeted that more than half the ice sheet experienced some degree of melting on Tuesday, according to a computer model simulation, which made it the “highest this year by some distance.”

According @dmidk's high res weather model #HARMONIEAROME we calculate a melt area of more than 51% yesterday (>1mm water equiv) - highest this year by some distance#Greenland #icesheet also lost >7 Gigatonnes of ice net of fresh snow/rain in SE https://t.co/Ftg0fkkwJc pic.twitter.com/GZbGTIYB3Z
— Greenland (@greenlandicesmb) July 31, 2019

But the peak of this melt event is likely still to come Wednesday or Thursday.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:09 am
 


The world is ending. Oh noes.


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Hurry the fuck up and end.


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BartSimpson wrote:
As if the entire mass of the Greenland ice sheet is going to melt because of a few days of heat. :lol:


Actually it has.

Greenland's ice sheet melting so fast it has caused global sea levels to rise 0.5mm in just a month

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Greenland is experiencing “extreme” temperatures as the record-setting heatwave that blasted Europe last week hovers over the region.

Up to half the surface of the island’s ice sheet is thought to be currently melting, with runoff equivalent to a 0.5mm rise in global sea levels in July alone.

It comes less than a week after Britain saw its hottest-ever day, with a high of 38.7C recorded at Cambridge botanic garden last Thursday. Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands also experienced record-high temperatures due to a plume of air from north Africa.

Greenland has seen abnormally high temperatures so far this summer, scientists have told The Independent, with melting expected to rival the record levels seen in 2012.

Dr Andrew Sole, a glaciologist from the University of Sheffield, said: “This year Greenland and other parts of the Arctic have experienced some record-breaking temperatures. In mid-June, temperatures along the eastern coast of Greenland were up to 9C above the 1981-to-2010 average


https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/greenland-weather-temperature-heatwave-ice-melt-sea-level-a9030361.html?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_source=reddit.com


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:35 pm
 


Up to half the surface of the island’s ice sheet is thought to be currently melting, with runoff equivalent to a 0.5mm rise in global sea levels in July alone.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:52 pm
 


11 billion tons melted in one day?Is that all?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:54 pm
 


PluggyRug wrote:
Up to half the surface of the island’s ice sheet is thought to be currently melting, with runoff equivalent to a 0.5mm rise in global sea levels in July alone.


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