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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:48 am
 


Title: European measles cases skyrocket over 2 years, at least 37 dead in 2018
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-08-21 06:59:55
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:48 am
 


This is what I'm talking about! 37 people dead, but Kennedy and Paltrow walk free, and nobody says anything. But if it had been a brown person in a van . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:38 am
 


Immunizations are for the children of the dirty anti-evolutionist caste.


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The agency said half — some 23,000 cases — this year occurred in Ukraine, where an insurgency backed by Russia has been fighting the government for four years in the east in a conflict that has killed more than 10,000 people.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:06 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
This is what I'm talking about! 37 people dead, but Kennedy and Paltrow walk free, and nobody says anything. But if it had been a brown person in a van . . .


Yeah, I get where you're coming from and I do agree that the holistic medicine people are a bit weird. Still, there needs to be a healthy balance between the tin-foiler anti-vaxxers and the tin-foilers who believe every product of Big Pharma magically becomes an infallible miracle from Jesus just because it's labeled a 'vaccine'.

I'm skeptical of anything made by Big Pharma and the fact that I can ask for and receive vaccines sans mercury means I'll skip the mercury every single time.

Between repeated exposures to concussive blast waves and a heavy drinking hobby I don't have the brain cells to spare for even a minute amount of a neurotoxin to be introduced into my body if I can avoid it simply by asking.

By the way, a month or two back I had the pneumonia vaccine after reading about it, reading about the low incidence of side effects (swelling around the injection site being #1) and the fact that my HMO uses a vaccine that is natively free of mercury.

I mean if I can avoid the mercury then why not?


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Yeah, I get where you're coming from and I do agree that the holistic medicine people are a bit weird. Still, there needs to be a healthy balance between the tin-foiler anti-vaxxers and the tin-foilers who believe every product of Big Pharma magically becomes an infallible miracle from Jesus just because it's labeled a 'vaccine'.


I am an Engineer. Before we are 'called', we undergo a lot of legal courses and instruction to understand that comes with responsibilities. We do things that can directly affect people's lives. (not me specifically, but Engineers in general). With the responsibility of putting your personal seal on a drawing and saying it is 'safe' you also take the responsibility that if it is not safe and it causes people to be hurt or killed, then you also bear that responsibility.

Anti-Vaxxers are getting people killed. They should bear the responsibility that a position of fame gives them, and answer for those deaths. There is now an outbreak of the measles in 22 US states. How many will die because these people continue to disseminate bad information and get people killed?

https://wtkr.com/2018/08/15/cdc-monitor ... 21-states/

And 'big pharma' pretty much never is involved in the development of vaccines. No profit in it.

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I'm skeptical of anything made by Big Pharma and the fact that I can ask for and receive vaccines sans mercury means I'll skip the mercury every single time.

Between repeated exposures to concussive blast waves and a heavy drinking hobby I don't have the brain cells to spare for even a minute amount of a neurotoxin to be introduced into my body if I can avoid it simply by asking.

By the way, a month or two back I had the pneumonia vaccine after reading about it, reading about the low incidence of side effects (swelling around the injection site being #1) and the fact that my HMO uses a vaccine that is natively free of mercury.

I mean if I can avoid the mercury then why not?


I'd go with the concussion angle, because I've lost track of the number of times you've been told the mercury (that is no longer used in the MMR vaccine, and the MMR vaccine is no longer used anyhow) is no more a threat to you than the poisonous chlorine or explosive sodium that is in your table salt.

It must be the concussions that keep you from remembering that chemical compounds do not act like the elements that comprise them.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:44 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
I'd go with the concussion angle, because I've lost track of the number of times you've been told the mercury (that is no longer used in the MMR vaccine, and the MMR vaccine is no longer used anyhow) is no more a threat to you than the poisonous chlorine or explosive sodium that is in your table salt.

It must be the concussions that keep you from remembering that chemical compounds do not act like the elements that comprise them.


You like science, right? Well, here you go:

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925236

I don't need this shit in my blood if I can avoid it. Why you won't avoid it when you can is your misfortune.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:52 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
Anti-Vaxxers are getting people killed. They should bear the responsibility that a position of fame gives them, and answer for those deaths.
The Answer: "Yes! I believe in the survival of the fittest!"


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:58 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
I'd go with the concussion angle, because I've lost track of the number of times you've been told the mercury (that is no longer used in the MMR vaccine, and the MMR vaccine is no longer used anyhow) is no more a threat to you than the poisonous chlorine or explosive sodium that is in your table salt.

It must be the concussions that keep you from remembering that chemical compounds do not act like the elements that comprise them.


You like science, right? Well, here you go:

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925236

I don't need this shit in my blood if I can avoid it. Why you won't avoid it when you can is your misfortune.


From your link:

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CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Mutagenic for mammalian somatic cells.
TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available.



From the CDC:

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The human body eliminates thimerosal easily.

Thimerosal does not stay in the body a long time so it does not build up and reach harmful levels. When thimerosal enters the body, it breaks down to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate, which are readily eliminated.


Thimerosal has been shown to be safe when used in vaccines.

Thimerosal use in medical products has a record of being very safe. Data from many studies show no evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines.


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/conce ... index.html

Material Safety Data sheets are not medical studies. :idea:

(MSDS sheets used to be a 'how to' for me, as they gave handy tips on what chemicals would react violently with others, so I'd give them a try!)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:08 am
 


Like I said, why should I take this shit when I don't have to?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:27 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Like I said, why should I take this shit when I don't have to?


I never wrote you should.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:46 am
 


Not to mention the lethal dose of it is astronomical compared to how much is actually in vaccines. The lethal dose is 50 mg/kg or about 3.5 grams per 150 pound human. Vaccines contain at it's highest amount 25 mcg. So that's about .00001 % of a lethal dose in a 150 pound human. It's the dose that makes the poison.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:00 pm
 


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Not to mention the lethal dose of it is astronomical compared to how much is actually in vaccines. The lethal dose is 50 mg/kg or about 3.5 grams per 150 pound human. Vaccines contain at it's highest amount 25 mcg. So that's about .00001 % of a lethal dose in a 150 pound human. It's the dose that makes the poison.


Again, if I can easily avoid it why should I take it at all?

More to the point, if you or Dr. Caleb can avoid it then what are you proving by needlessly exposing yourselves to it?


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BartSimpson wrote:
Tricks wrote:
Not to mention the lethal dose of it is astronomical compared to how much is actually in vaccines. The lethal dose is 50 mg/kg or about 3.5 grams per 150 pound human. Vaccines contain at it's highest amount 25 mcg. So that's about .00001 % of a lethal dose in a 150 pound human. It's the dose that makes the poison.


Again, if I can easily avoid it why should I take it at all?

More to the point, if you or Dr. Caleb can avoid it then what are you proving by needlessly exposing yourselves to it?

Cause I know it doesn't matter, and therefore I don't care. Why would I spend energy trying to have a specific vaccine when it doesn't matter? All that serves is being a pain the ass to the doctor or pharmacist who is giving it to me. We also saying that if people want to avoid it, more power to them. But they need to stop spreading blatant lies that are resulting in children dying from preventable diseases.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:19 pm
 


If you want to expose yourself to it then feel free. Myself, since a vaccine is available that's mercury-free and I can have it just by asking then that's what I will do.


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BartSimpson wrote:
If you want to expose yourself to it then feel free. Myself, since a vaccine is available that's mercury-free and I can have it just by asking then that's what I will do.

Which is fine. But if you go on national television as a role model and use that platform to spread lies about vaccines with it, then you're just an asshole who is killing children. People are stupid. People who listen to celebrities are even dumber. If they were making this decision for themselves, that's one thing. But they're making the decision for their kids, and kids are dying. Perhaps we should start jailing people for criminal negligence if they don't vaccinate their kids and they die as a result. Same with religious objection to shit like blood transfusions. If your dumb beliefs cause pain and suffering and death of a child, you go to fucking jail. Maybe that will get people to wake the fuck up. I'd rather do that then jail some guy for doing a line of coke.


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