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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:00 am
 


Title: EXCLUSIVE: Stats Canada requesting banking information of 500,000 Canadians without their knowledge
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Date: 2018-10-28 00:05:59
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Tebrake said one reason for the new data collection method is the agency has found that responses to surveys are low. The data gathered will be used to track household spending and consumer trends, like how often Canadians spend money outside the country.

Once the data is compiled by Stats Canada it will be made anonymous in order to remove personal identifiers, according to Tebrake.

We are not keeping Canadians in the dark, we are fully transparent about the data that we collect and how we collect it. And [we] assure Canadians their privacy is being respected.


Utter bullshit. If that last paragraph is true why aren't the asking the individuals they're gathering the data from before taking it? Making the banks give out private information is nothing more than the gov't building a data base on people without ever having them know about it and if you believe they'll take your name off the list you're delusional.

This type of data compiling by the gov't has been done before. During WWII they promised the veterans that they'd destroy their fingerprints after the war but then never did it and used those same prints to build a data base that they used to catch "future" criminals.

If history is any indicator anybody want to bet that this "anonymous" information somehow miraculously finds it's way to Revenue Canada and the RCMP with the names still attached?


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Not a bet I would take. Why do they your sin to collect data on household spending. Not much you can do about it. If you use cash you look guilty of hiding something. If everyone (government banks cell phone etc) join their data they will know everything. Well that's sounding like a conspiracy theory in the making 8O


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:50 pm
 


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Not a bet I would take. Why do they your sin to collect data on household spending. Not much you can do about it. If you use cash you look guilty of hiding something. If everyone (government banks cell phone etc) join their data they will know everything. Well that's sounding like a conspiracy theory in the making 8O


Only it isn't. The Chinese Gov't is spying on us using cell phones, the American Gov't is spying on us using cell phones. The Canadian Gov't is collecting our banking data. So how is it only a "theory"?

It's pretty apparent it's 1984 and Big Brother is alive and well. To bad we didn't pay attention when George Orwell told us this was coming.


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housewife wrote:
If everyone (government banks cell phone etc) join their data they will know everything. Well that's sounding like a conspiracy theory in the making 8O



It's not a theory, it's the truth.

A leftist's wet dream about to come true.


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martin14 wrote:
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If everyone (government banks cell phone etc) join their data they will know everything. Well that's sounding like a conspiracy theory in the making 8O



It's not a theory, it's the truth.

A leftist's wet dream about to come true.


Bill C-51 allows government departments to share information internally, something that was illegal previously. Cretien tried to build the 'Super Database' but people were in such an uproar that it got cancelled.

https://globalnews.ca/news/2966418/does ... al-report/

But C-51 was applauded, because it was under the guise of 'anti-terrorism'. Everyone that supported that bill can now hang their head in shame.


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Cretien tried to build the 'Super Database' but people were in such an uproar that it got cancelled.


Things like that don't get cancelled they just get hidden away.


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maybe they'll take pity on how little I have in the bank and give me a billion dollars.


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Cretien tried to build the 'Super Database' but people were in such an uproar that it got cancelled.


Things like that don't get cancelled they just get hidden away.


Pretty sure the reason for moving every department off their own IT into the shitty Service Canada model was so that CSE had a single point to be able to copy all the data for their own use. :evil:


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What!!! I saw this on question period today. I'm a member of the Liberal Party, but I can't believe Justin defended this action. His response is outrageous!

Once the government has this information, there's no question the CRA and RCMP will use it. CRA is already going after average working people who can't defend themselves, making all sorts of untrue accusations. CRA already provided tax records to the IRS. When I travelled to the US for a convention for a club, as I waited in the airport gate for the plane, I saw officials collect looking at passengers. They were after someone because he carried a large some of money. Not contraband, just money. The US is arresting people for possessing money. And that's the United States, not China or some third world country! And our government provides information to them.

This is what privacy laws are for. To prevent exactly this sort of thing. I, I, I... don't know what to say!


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Ha! No laws to protect your "privacy" for you!


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I wonder if a section 8 challenge could be made.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:03 pm
 


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The US is arresting people for possessing money. And that's the United States, not China or some third world country!


100% true.

And the magnetic ink on our modern currency allows magnetometers in airports to easily identify large sums of cash and then TSA can be counted on to seize the money.

One of the common questions cops ask during traffic stops is, "Do you have any large sums of cash?", and the correct answer is "No."

Myself, I take an extremely dim view of both violations of rights and the worst one is the traffic cops who routinely perform armed robbery on the highway.

AFAIAC, whatever happens to these armed criminals in the commission of their crimes is fine by me.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:37 am
 


Sort of related; when I logged on to my banking website recently, it said it would need my email and phone number.

Not happening. I've been using it for almost 20 years without that info, and it was th eonly reason I stayed with TD when they bought Canada Trust. If I can't access it, I'll change banks.


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DrCaleb wrote:
Sort of related; when I logged on to my banking website recently, it said it would need my email and phone number.

Not happening. I've been using it for almost 20 years without that info, and it was th eonly reason I stayed with TD when they bought Canada Trust. If I can't access it, I'll change banks.


You might want to ask if they're implementing multi-factor authentication as that what it sounds like.

My own bank (Chase) does this and it's pretty damned useful, IMHO.

Also, the FBI uses it whenever I log onto their resource network. I don't mind so long as they're not abusing the information with advertising or etc.


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