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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:23 pm
 


http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/fantino-replaced-as-veterans-affairs-minister-1.2172926
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Published Monday, January 5, 2015 12:29PM EST
Last Updated Monday, January 5, 2015 2:55PM EST

OTTAWA -- The Prime Minister's Office is confirming Julian Fantino has been shuffled out of his position as veterans affairs minister after less than 18 turbulent months.

In a quiet ceremony today at Rideau Hall, Fantino was replaced in the post by Erin O'Toole, a southern Ontario MP and former member of the Royal Canadian Air Force.

However, Fantino -- a tough-talking former police chief who represents the strategically important riding of Vaughan, north of Toronto -- remains in cabinet in his old job as associate minister of defence.
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Fantino was seen leaving Rideau Hall after the ceremony, but would only offer New Year's greetings to the gathered reporters.

A tough-talking former street cop who later became Toronto police chief and commissioner of the Ontario Provincial Police, Fantino entered federal politics by winning a byelection in 2010.

He was re-elected in 2011 and named to the cabinet in January as minister of state for seniors. He became minister of international co-operation in July 2012 and went to Veterans Affairs a year later.

He found himself in political hot water almost from the moment he took the post.

Under Fantino, the department came under heavy fire from veterans groups, the veterans ombudsman, the auditor general and the political opposition.

Fantino's efforts to defend office closures, job cuts, lapsed budget money and tweaks to pensions and benefits provoked anger from veterans and scorn from the NDP and Liberals.

There were public relations gaffes, including a much-publicized -- and televised -- confrontation with veterans, and the sight of Fantino walking down a parliamentary hallway, ignoring shouted questions from the wife of a former soldier.

Government lawyers went to court to argue that the government has no special responsibility to care for veterans, although that had been iron-clad policy since the First World War.

There were howls of protest when it was learned the department had allowed more than $1 billion of its budget to lapse and return to the federal treasury since 2006. The anger only grew when the department admitted spending $4 million on ads last year promoting its efforts to help veterans return to civilian life.

Reports detailed the troubles veterans encountered getting help and benefits from the department. Other studies suggested that wounded veterans would face poverty once they hit age 65.

Efforts to calm the situation failed. Tweaks to benefits and more money for mental health brought no respite. Fantino's chief of staff quit and was replaced by a staffer from the Prime Minister's Office.

Retired general Walt Natynczyk, the country's former top military commander, was also appointed as Fantino's deputy minister and senior civil servant.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:34 pm
 


Surprised it took that long. Probably too little too late as far as the veterans' votes in this year's election.


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They should have moved him to Immigration where his assholery would be appreciated.


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bossdog bossdog:
They should have moved him to Immigration where his assholery would be appreciated.


Well, I guess Harper's problem is that there are simply too many assholes to choose from. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:57 pm
 


The minister isn't the problem.

"Government lawyers went to court to argue that the government has no special responsibility to care for veterans"

Every party voted for the new veterans charter, and none have yet come out and said they were wrong in doing so.

No special responsibility to care for veterans. WTF.


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Surprised it took that long. Probably too little too late as far as the veterans' votes in this year's election.


Can't see many vets voting Liberal.

Or Dipper, for that matter. :lol:


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Surprised it took that long. Probably too little too late as far as the veterans' votes in this year's election.


Can't see many vets voting Liberal.

Or Dipper, for that matter. :lol:


Maybe. They're kind of asking for more abuse if they vote Conservative though.


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
martin14 martin14:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Surprised it took that long. Probably too little too late as far as the veterans' votes in this year's election.


Can't see many vets voting Liberal.

Or Dipper, for that matter. :lol:


Maybe. They're kind of asking for more abuse if they vote Conservative though.


Which is still nothing like the abuse Justine would give them.

A real alternative to the Cons doesn't exist in Canada.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:58 pm
 


Don't let the door hit your in the ass on your way out, Guilaini.

We'll see how an actual veteran does.


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Don't let the door hit your in the ass on your way out, Guilaini.

We'll see how an actual veteran does.


Don't hold you breath. The head of Veterans Affairs isn't omnipotent nor can he change policy and the only reason they put an actual vet in the position was so they could trot him out to the voting public and show how he agrees with the Governments wonderfully enlightened policies on the treatment of the veterans. :roll:

Call me cynical but, the first time this guy opens his pie hole and says something that's not party policy and in favour of the Vets he'll be gone faster than a corrupt politicians promises.

Although, his name is likely to give Veterans hours of unintentional hilarity amid the misery and broken promises. :P


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:42 am
 


Remember his aunt "Plenty"? She was one of the Bond girls.


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Good.....never liked the smarmy prick.


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Which is still nothing like the abuse Justine would give them.

A real alternative to the Cons doesn't exist in Canada.


Well, that would be the Conservatvie message certainly. The problem is that type of "negative advertising" just isn't workgin right now, except for their core--grumpy old white people.

I wouldn't count on the vets vote if I were Conservative either. Sure a lot of them are grumpy old white people, but a lot of them are young as well, and don't remember getting bent over the barrel during the Chretien/Martin years.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:41 am
 


Perhaps, but the officers / senior NCOs will.


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Yeah, but at least the grumpy old white people are more-or-less stable and think ahead a bit. The grumpy young non-white people would wreck the fucking place entirely if they ever ended up in charge. This alone is why I'm eternally happy that the mythical 'youth vote' never bothers to show up because if it did we'd have had about a dozen NDP governments in a row and the whole fucking country would be worse off than Cuba as a result of it.


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