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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:20 pm
 


Title: Former Israeli leader Ariel Sharon still in critical condition
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Posted By: martin14
Date: 2014-01-03 11:17:25


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:20 pm
 


Looks like it won't be much longer for him.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:28 pm
 


martin14 martin14:
Looks like it won't be much longer for him.


To be honest, I thought he died shortly after he had that stroke as I heard nothing about him after that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:41 pm
 


Same here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:54 pm
 


For his hardcase reputation he would have been a far better leader for Israel the last few years than Netanyahu has been. Sharon kicked those goddamn settlers out of Gaza and probably would have done the same in the West Bank too. At a minimum he certainly wouldn't have gone on a building spree in areas where the Palestinians have lived for centuries. As much as they hated him Sharon would have been much better for the Muslims to deal with than the cretins who followed him have been. Damndest worst luck possible when that stroke felled him.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:12 pm
 


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For his hardcase reputation he would have been a far better leader for Israel the last few years than Netanyahu has been. Sharon kicked those goddamn settlers out of Gaza and probably would have done the same in the West Bank too. At a minimum he certainly wouldn't have gone on a building spree in areas where the Palestinians have lived for centuries. As much as they hated him Sharon would have been much better for the Muslims to deal with than the cretins who followed him have been. Damndest worst luck possible when that stroke felled him.

Sharon was ruthless as they come yet at the same time he was willing to work diplomatic channels because he kept all options on the table.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:06 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
Sharon was ruthless as they come yet at the same time he was willing to work diplomatic channels because he kept all options on the table.


He was willing to accomplish with words what others would seek to accomplish with bombs.

The most effective men of peace are always, first and foremost, men of war.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:45 pm
 


Yes, the "old" warrier/Kibbutzim true believers that built Israel: Sharon, Begun, Rabin, Meyer, Dayan, Ben Gurion really have the sense of utter and total dedication to their country. Netanyahu just looks like an obtuse, mean-spirited CEO of a powerful corporation, rather than a "true believer" like his predecessors obviously were. I may have it wrong but that is how he looks to me.

Sharon was a modern "Gideon". Netanyahu is more of a "Meyer Lansky"


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:50 am
 


Agreed. It's easier to wage war than to seek peace. He was commendable for his ability to 'walk the line' and do both.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:08 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BRAH BRAH:
Sharon was ruthless as they come yet at the same time he was willing to work diplomatic channels because he kept all options on the table.


He was willing to accomplish with words what others would seek to accomplish with bombs.

The most effective men of peace are always, first and foremost, men of war.

He was like Reagan and Thatcher leaders who were willing to get their hands dirty for the better good unlike leaders today who govern by polls and bowing to political groups.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:12 pm
 


Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Yes, the "old" warrier/Kibbutzim true believers that built Israel: Sharon, Begun, Rabin, Meyer, Dayan, Ben Gurion really have the sense of utter and total dedication to their country. Netanyahu just looks like an obtuse, mean-spirited CEO of a powerful corporation, rather than a "true believer" like his predecessors obviously were. I may have it wrong but that is how he looks to me.

Sharon was a modern "Gideon". Netanyahu is more of a "Meyer Lansky"

Netanyahu has some justification worrying about Israel's securty when it's so called greatest ally has stabbed them in the back on numerous occasions.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:29 am
 


Ariel Sharon, a man who gambled big for peace, only to have it thrown back into his face by the Palestinians, although Sharon was unable to see the results. Prime Minister Olmert took over to handle (poorly, I might add) the aftershocks of such a bold move, and sadly, none of them were good. Maybe Sharon would have handled the increased rocket attacks and kidnapping attempts diplomatically, or maybe war was inevitable, no matter who was in power. Nobody can say for certain.

Either way, he's a patriot to Israel, and I hope things are as painless as possible.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:50 am
 


He's gone. RIP



http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Form ... -85-337662




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Sharon was one of Israel’s legendary politicians and military leaders. He played an instrumental role in IDF victories in the Sinai desert in both the 1967 Six Day War and in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. His victories on the battlefield, immortalized by the image of him in an IDF uniform with a white bandage wrapped around his wounded forehead, earned him the title, “Arik, King of Israel.”

He was equally fearless in the political arena, where he was the father of two parties, Likud and Kadima. As defense minister in 1982, he oversaw the Lebanon War before he was ousted from office in 1983 as a result of the Sabra and Shatilla massacre for which the Kahn Commission of Inquiry found him indirectly responsible.

But he returned to politics. As construction and housing minister from 1990 to 1992, he was responsible for a massive building effort of 144,000 apartments to house the flood of Russian-speaking immigrants from the former Soviet Union bloc. As the father of the settlement movement, he was also instrumental in building thousands of homes in Judea and Samaria and is famous for urging right-wing activists “to run for the hilltops.”

He rose to the post of foreign minister in 1998. In September 2000, as the head of the Likud party, his walk on the Temple Mount was cited by Palestinians as the trigger for the second intifada.

He was elected prime minister in 2001 and under his leadership Israel began to build its security barrier in the West Bank.

He was famous for the slogan “The fate of Netzarim [a Jewish settlement in the Gaza Strip] is the fate of Tel Aviv.” But as prime minister, he formulated and executed the disengagement, in which Israel evacuated 21 Gaza settlements along with another four in northern Samaria. In 2005, he left the Likud in anger, choosing to create Kadima with Shimon Peres, Ehud Olmert and Livni.

After his stroke, Kadima went on to win the 2006 election under Olmert’s leadership.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:29 am
 


RIP Mr Sharon.....your 8 years of a living death are over


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:22 am
 


“Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were and ask why not.” - George Bernard Shaw

Rest now, Mr Sharon.


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