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Title: Freeland walks out on Wallonia leaders during talks on Canada-EU trade deal
Category: Economics
Posted By: shockedcanadian
Date: 2016-10-21 08:11:51
Canadian

[shockedcanadian]

This is a very important deal for Canada, and Europeans need protections from any abuses that might occur against their companies in Canada. That's the type of free market economy we need. Human Rights and Protections against abuses against their businesses right to self determination.

I'm sure we can get it done and allow European businesses to have recourse against abuses. Even if it is agreed to, it still has to be ratified through 28 parliaments, with elections coming up in some countries and some skepticism of Canada's loyalty to free markets among other concerns, this will continue to be a tough deal to close.

Canada desperately needs and relies on free markets, our own unstated protectionism has damaged our reputation with many. Even some of the EU nations who reluctantly signed on have wavered from time to time, and certainly getting it through parliament with others who are walking cautiously with Canada isn't good.

[Thanos]

All hail Paul Magnette, the president of the Belgian region of Wallonia, for standing up for his land and his people. Need more moments like this for the common people around the world, instead of seeing more what little we have left given away for nothing to the global elite and the unaccountable bankers and other financial sector thieves.

[peck420]

Belgians puffed their chests, Europeans cried, Canada sighed, the world shrugged, China laughed.

[shockedcanadian]

Thanos Thanos:

All hail Paul Magnette, the president of the Belgian region of Wallonia, for standing up for his land and his people. Need more moments like this for the common people around the world, instead of seeing more what little we have left given away for nothing to the global elite and the unaccountable bankers and other financial sector thieves.

"Standing up for his land and his people". That's something else right there. Canada needs this free trade deal, alot more than than the E.U needs it, especially when they know that the real deal is between EU and the U.S. This deal is window dressing for that. The elite you talk about create jobs and opportunity, it is certain protectionists who want government fingers in everything that destroy the marketplace. Always a socialist who talks about greedy corporations while they themselves make it rich off of capitalizing on every human misery, real or imagined. Free markets and fee men are the enemy of socialists and communists, free trade deals upset some because they don't get to be the middle man in business and citizens lives.

Canada is a trade nation, the problem is, we sprout free market principles to the rest of the world while being protectionists through the use of state actors. The so-called sharing of European values is also false, we have rejected Western values long ago for a more centralized government approach. At the expense of Canadian success.

Canada has a reputation of stabbing allies in the back which I have expressed often on here, I have personally reached out to many EU leaders regarding this. Ultimately, Canada needs to provide protections for Europe so that they don't experience Canadian tactics that have been engaged in under NAFTA. I would guess that such policies would help Canada greatly, but also impact the Canadian apparatuses ability to undermine and apply the "covert Canadian tariff" to foreign businesses.

This deal will get done, but only with the right protections it would appear. In reality as much as Canada needs free trades, we are incapable of competing with these other nations without underhanded methods to equalize this competition.

[Thanos]

I could care less about the details. I just like to see the globalist scum lose one every now and then. If Trudeau put all the eggs in one basket with this deal then screw him too. 7500 layoffs announced at Bombardier today but no one gives a damn about those workers at all.

[shockedcanadian]

Thanos Thanos:

I could care less about the details. I just like to see the globalist scum lose one every now and then. If Trudeau put all the eggs in one basket with this deal then screw him too. 7500 layoffs announced at Bombardier today but no one gives a damn about those workers at all.

Some businesses win and some lose. If you want to win, ensure the best, brightest and most motivated rise to the top, if you want lose, become like Canada: a nation of cronyism and nepotism.

I don't want to spend a dime of taxpayers money to save another failed business. Maybe if we allowed the free market to reign and protected our Charter of Rights and Due Process; among other principles, Canada would have a trusted nation. As it stands we are not trusted, and it will only get worse as the world closely sees how we operate. The internet is not Canadas friend.

[Thanos]

Yeah, win or lose and as long as you're on the winning side everything's A-OK. Anyone else who ends up on the other side just wasn't fit enough for the grand Darwinian struggle right? Omelettes need broken eggs! Sacrifices must be made! That's about the worst thing this goddamn Reaganite capitalism has done to us, where the mighty "winners" get to casually decide the worth of those who aren't one of them.

[shockedcanadian]

Thanos Thanos:

Yeah, win or lose and as long as you're on the winning side everything's A-OK. Anyone else who ends up on the other side just wasn't fit enough for the grand Darwinian struggle right? Omelettes need broken eggs! Sacrifices must be made! That's about the worst thing this goddamn Reaganite capitalism has done to us, where the mighty "winners" get to casually decide the worth of those who aren't one of them.

Why don't you go put down your life savings on a business and see how happy you are when the government interferes in your pursuits. Red tape, regulations, taxation and more costs, just for you to open your storefront, all to protect the "chosen ones" (i.e, cronies and government business fronts). Then have the government determine who you should hire, how they should be remunerated, where they can sell their goods and services.

You dislike winners and losers, but would much prefer what? Borrowing by the state until we go belly up, in the name of fairness to the losing businesses? Government has a role, a minimal role, an administrative role primarily, more broadly a role to defend our citizens. We have a Charter of Rights in which this begins, once we violate that (and we have far too often), all bets are off the table.

The world is about competition. Schools, sports, work ethic, your natural ambitions and talents. Get used to it. We are competing with the world, while trying to submarine others who are doing so on Canadian soil.

Good luck.

[Lemmy]

Thanos Thanos:

7500 layoffs announced at Bombardier today but no one gives a damn about those workers at all.

Bombardier deserves to die and its workers' are every bit as much to blame as the bosses. This exactly what you get when you fill your plant with entitled mooks who don't give a shit whether their jobs are properly done. Bombardier is just a symptom of a larger epidemic among Canadian workers. Good thing we're importing some work ethic 'cause there's bugger-all left of it among our homegrown youth.

[Thanos]

AKA give me enough money and I'll sell the lot of you out too.

[shockedcanadian]

Thanos Thanos:

AKA give me enough money and I'll sell the lot of you out too.

I dont understand this selling out that you speak of. The Euro value alone would be a great boon to Canadian businesses. Europeans will get a big bang for their buck investing in Canada.

CETA is a great deal for Canada. Now if I was European, I could see the trepidation Especially since I am fully aware of Canadian tactics.

[BRAH]

Don't worry our savior is upon us who makes great deals.

[Thanos]

My reaction to pictures of Trump pretty much now mirrors this exactly.

[shockedcanadian]

BRAH BRAH:

Don't worry our savior is upon us who makes great deals.

lol, did he actually write that? It should surprise me but it doesn't if true.

Clinton wins this election, this much is clear now. It's the far left and Bernie supporters who could cause Canada problems.