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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:36 pm
 


Tman1 wrote:
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_t ... tal-crimes

"#1 United States: 23,677,800
#2 Germany: 6,264,720
#3 United Kingdom: 5,170,830
#4 France: 3,771,850
#5 South Africa: 3,422,740
#6 Russia: 2,952,370
#7 Canada: 2,476,520
#8 Japan: 2,443,470"


Let me get this straight. Germany and France are more criminal than Russia, who basically has corrupt entrepreneurs running the country and slightly worse than Canada?....riiiight. I see nationmaster neglects to mention any S.American countries where it is a sinnot to commit a crime.

I think this disclaimer has something to do with it.
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DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence.


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Heh. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:21 am
 


Tman1 wrote:
The kid remembers me. You are still a kid right or did you become a man? :lol:

I pop in time to time. Not as much as my thousand posts a day past but I do what needs to be done. :wink:

I never was a kid you sunuva bitch. ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:48 am
 


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I'm saying a reason why they have less violent crime compared to the US or Canada is because of the lack of diversity.


And I said bullshit, they have tonnes of crime, irregardless of "lack of diversity". There is a shitload of crime in Japan, and if you think otherwise, you need to stop drinking sake...

Is it more organized crime though?


Yes and no. While the Yakuza pretty much run the underground to the point that not even the police or politicians will even try to touch them, there is also a tonne of crime that is youth-related and is due to the incredible pressures on Japanese teenagers. Of all the Japanese people who I've ever met in Canada who were on an International Exchange, they loved it here in Canada because according to a friend of mine, "you wouldn't bring shame to your family if you got a 65% or you didn't like a class". The pressures over there are incredible, which is why Japan has one of the highest teen and adult suicide rates in the Western World, if not the highest.

Unfortunately, many Japanese youth feel that the only way to regain themselves is through crime, to make themselves feel big or feel like somebody. It's an extraordinarily complex issue that even the Japanese try to ignore, because it has spread everywhere and to everything, making so hard to deal with and nearly impossible to understand.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:01 am
 


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I say this is a registered gun (rifle) owner, and a proud member of a northern ontario gun club, we do not need concealable weapons in our society. Not in OUR society. We dont need people with temper tantrums shooting up shopping malls and having gunfights in subways. Not in OUR society.


Please cite even ONE instance in the past 20 years of a US CCW holder having a temper tantrum and then shooting up a shopping mall or having a gunfight in a subway.

You can't because no such thing has happened.

For all the dire predictions of "Wild West" shootouts when such permits are issued absolutely no such things have come to pass.

For a member of a shooting sports organization you should know this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:17 pm
 


Tman1 wrote:
commanderkai wrote:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_t ... tal-crimes

"#1 United States: 23,677,800
#2 Germany: 6,264,720
#3 United Kingdom: 5,170,830
#4 France: 3,771,850
#5 South Africa: 3,422,740
#6 Russia: 2,952,370
#7 Canada: 2,476,520
#8 Japan: 2,443,470"


Let me get this straight. Germany and France are more criminal than Russia, who basically has corrupt entrepreneurs running the country and slightly worse than Canada?....riiiight. I see nationmaster neglects to mention any S.American countries where it is a sinnot to commit a crime.


You can't really write statistics on unreported crime....

Anyway, I'm just using that as an example where crime is lower in areas that are basically homogeneous...then I get harped for saying there is alot of crime and there is little crime...sheesh.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:41 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
CommanderSock wrote:
I say this is a registered gun (rifle) owner, and a proud member of a northern ontario gun club, we do not need concealable weapons in our society. Not in OUR society. We dont need people with temper tantrums shooting up shopping malls and having gunfights in subways. Not in OUR society.


Please cite even ONE instance in the past 20 years of a US CCW holder having a temper tantrum and then shooting up a shopping mall or having a gunfight in a subway.

You can't because no such thing has happened.

For all the dire predictions of "Wild West" shootouts when such permits are issued absolutely no such things have come to pass.

For a member of a shooting sports organization you should know this.

I'd like to see this as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:00 am
 


stemmer wrote:
Now the lefties will be screaming for a knife registry/ban...!!!!

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Let the Lefties try to ban Dundee's knife.. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:06 pm
 


commanderkai wrote:
Anyway, I'm just using that as an example where crime is lower in areas that are basically homogeneous...then I get harped for saying there is alot of crime and there is little crime...sheesh.

I'm not harping on you nor care about your exchange with the others. Unreported crime, reported crime. Fine. Most people who look at those stats look at it as being BS. What's the point of using those stats as any resource when you know most of the countries that commit most crimes don't report crimes?

Mexico at 13, what a laugh.


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