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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:41 pm
Yes........ my second string swede.......
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:44 pm
ShepherdsDog wrote: Quote: The Scaly Shabbaroon blethered wrote: I think it might be rotting Campbell... we tend to keep the heads around to remind us of the value of ugly. I thought that was purpose of MacDonald women....seeing as MacDonald men use livestock for reproductive and romantic purposes. MacDonald women are quite handsome - as opposed to the Campbell variety. I understand why Campbells keep pumpkins by the pillow...
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Axeman 
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:44 pm
ShepherdsDog wrote: Quote: A Scottish accent is.
Are you calling a Scottish accent a defect? Only in so much as my wife has a hard time understanding what my parents say to her in Highland broague, which, in turn, gets her pissed at me, lowering my chances at receiving oral sex.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:45 pm
lily wrote: ShepherdsDog wrote: Yes........ my second string swede....... Ouch.  I'm part Scot... from one of the nice clans. We might be Irish though. No-one knows for sure. That would make you a Campbell...
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:47 pm
Axeman wrote: And it's okay to make jokes based on caucassian stero-types, as opposed to non-caucassian sterotypes? What stereo-type? That different nationalities have different accents? Sorry you're just not going to convince me that imitating someones accent is degrading or offensive. I'm sorry for you that you think it is. It must suck when you watch comedy shows.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:51 pm
Accents once upon a time varied from didtrict to district within one city, or from one region of a country to another. To claim that mimicking one is racist is......denigrating the term. it's like all the numbnuts who keep screaming genocide.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:54 pm
lily wrote: I guess you missed the part where I said, "one of the nice clans".  If you've got a head of thick wolly hair and can baa or moo, the MacDonalds may claim you. Just beware....they keep a pocket full of coins to toss around, hoping someone will bend over to pick one up. Why is it that there's always a surge in MacDonald births after there's been a clan gathering?
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:54 pm
lily wrote: Gunnair wrote: lily wrote: Ouch.  I'm part Scot... from one of the nice clans. We might be Irish though. No-one knows for sure. That would make you a Campbell... I guess you missed the part where I said, "one of the nice clans".  No, I caught that, but when you mentioned 'Irish' and unknown and mysterious ancestral parentage... well that screams Campbell. 
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Axeman 
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:55 pm
lily wrote: The second.
Anyone can speak with a Scottish accent, and since when are they a race? Sure, anyone can speak with a Scottish accent. We don't know their motive. If they're doing it with respect, fine. If they're doing it to ridicule, then it's racist. If they're doing it to make levity or reinforce stereotypes, then it's racist. Likewise, anyone can say "Yo, Black people have serious rhythym"...If you meant it as a comment on the fine black performers you saw last night, then fine. If you meant it to say that blacks are a bunch of Harlem rythmn-brothers, then you're being racist. When a gum company gives a fake Scottish accent to an animated character in commercials, specifically to make that accent seem quaint and/or comical, then that's offensive to Scots. Giving the animated gum character an afro and an ebonics accent would have been ugly, wouldn't it? What's the difference?
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:58 pm
Axeman wrote: Sure, anyone can speak with a Scottish accent. We don't know their motive. If they're doing it with respect, fine. If they're doing it to ridicule, then it's racist. If they're doing it to make levity or reinforce stereotypes, then it's racist. No it's not. Quote: racism 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:04 pm
ShepherdsDog wrote: lily wrote: I guess you missed the part where I said, "one of the nice clans".  If you've got a head of thick wolly hair and can baa or moo, the MacDonalds may claim you. Just beware....they keep a pocket full of coins to toss around, hoping someone will bend over to pick one up.  Oh, Lily, ye're a rare treat! You're better off with us than watching some of Clan Campbell's finest fart Scarborough Fair and drink Teachers by the pint. Rumour has it they wear their kilts inside out to stop the dogs from peeing on the already thoroughly marked territory...
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Axeman 
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:12 pm
lily wrote: Were you seriously offended by this piece of gum and the animated ogre? No. But would black people have been offended if the gum displayed negro sterotypes? Would Chinese be offended if the gum had a pointed hat and worked in the rice fields saying "Me pick da rice for udder squinty-eyed Chinamen"? The point is that you can make racist jokes against white subcultures, like Scots, but not non-white groups and that's wrong. It's either got to be okay to make fun of anyone based on any stereotype or NONE.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:14 pm
Axeman wrote: lily wrote: Were you seriously offended by this piece of gum and the animated ogre? No. But would black people have been offended if the gum displayed negro sterotypes? Would Chinese be offended if the gum had a pointed hat and worked in the rice fields saying "Me pick da rice for udder squinty-eyed Chinamen"? The point is that you can make racist jokes against white subcultures, like Scots, but not non-white groups and that's wrong. It's either got to be okay to make fun of anyone based on any stereotype or NONE. I'm beginning to wonder who the racist is here with your choice of descriptive words for certain races.
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Axeman 
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:21 pm
lily wrote: Axeman wrote: Okay, let me ask you a question: Have you ever seen the commercials for Wrigley's EXTRA chewing gum with the animated stick of gum running around with a Scottish accent? Is it funny or is it racist? As a Scottish-Canadian, I find this (and Shrek) and other attempts to trivialize and stereotype Scottish culture as offensive. So, "soreness" is very personal. But what's worse? Allowing and accepting speech that may be in bad taste but is essentially harmless or having a full-blown, Political-correctness Army curbing freedom of speech at every turn? I'll take the world with Scottish-accented chewing gum and fried chicken jokes. you said "SERIOUSLY"...my answer is "NO, only slightly".
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