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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:48 am
 


mtbr mtbr:
With all the whining that comes out of Toronto about "the environment" :roll: McGuilty should slap a 20 cent a liter tax on gas...I wonder how that would go over :lol:


Toronto thinks it's a good idea to whine about the environment only when it's somebody else who has to foot the bill. They're all for Kyoto so long as it's Alberta who gets stuck with the price tag, it's a much different story when you start talking about them paying more for electricity becaue they have to shut down some of their coal fired electricity generating stations or when they are faced with an environmental levy on fuel. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:12 am
 


1.219 a litre in Winnipeg according to CJOB.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:18 am
 


mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
Don't you feel the scale economies of an industry so vertically and horizontally integrated?



Why would you care? you are constantly nagging about the oil sands"destroying the environment" I would think you would be happy when the price goes up.


All (market) prices most be set at the level where they only allow the producers/distributors to recover its costs. That is perfect competition.





PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:11 am
 


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oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.

yeah we're shaking in our boots in Alberta...you will still never be able to afford to live here... :lol:


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mtbr mtbr:
tritium tritium:
oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.


somebody has to pay for the environmental damages.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:19 am
 


Rationalist Rationalist:


I am completely against needlessly high taxes, but at times I wonder if a tax on gas would help make the transition easier and get ourselves accustomed to realistic fuel prices, because most people don't realize that next to countries like Kuwait, North America is lucky to have low fuel costs.


thats an idea that most of us probably like, but we would need to restructure the way government manages their money.

The harsh reality is: road taxes aren't spent on road, gambling taxes arent spent on stop gambling, carbon taxes wont be spent on carbon reduction, alcohol and tobacco taxes aren't spent on healthcare...

...everything just goes into the same general coffers, and there is no accountability to how it is spent. hell, even the EI fund gets stripped and raped by the government.

Personally I would support some major reform on how taxes are collected and spent.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:31 am
 


Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
Rationalist Rationalist:


I am completely against needlessly high taxes, but at times I wonder if a tax on gas would help make the transition easier and get ourselves accustomed to realistic fuel prices, because most people don't realize that next to countries like Kuwait, North America is lucky to have low fuel costs.


thats an idea that most of us probably like, but we would need to restructure the way government manages their money.

The harsh reality is: road taxes aren't spent on road, gambling taxes arent spent on stop gambling, carbon taxes wont be spent on carbon reduction, alcohol and tobacco taxes aren't spent on healthcare...

...everything just goes into the same general coffers, and there is no accountability to how it is spent. hell, even the EI fund gets stripped and raped by the government.

Personally I would support some major reform on how taxes are collected and spent.


I think that's the big issue here. Comparatively speaking, fuel in Canada is still very cheap. I find most people who complain are those that drive huge SUV's to work and back anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:36 am
 


Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
Rationalist Rationalist:


I am completely against needlessly high taxes, but at times I wonder if a tax on gas would help make the transition easier and get ourselves accustomed to realistic fuel prices, because most people don't realize that next to countries like Kuwait, North America is lucky to have low fuel costs.


thats an idea that most of us probably like, but we would need to restructure the way government manages their money.

The harsh reality is: road taxes aren't spent on road, gambling taxes arent spent on stop gambling, carbon taxes wont be spent on carbon reduction, alcohol and tobacco taxes aren't spent on healthcare...

...everything just goes into the same general coffers, and there is no accountability to how it is spent. hell, even the EI fund gets stripped and raped by the government.

Personally I would support some major reform on how taxes are collected and spent.


Ending regulatory capture is the best such reform:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture





PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:55 am
 


Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
tritium tritium:
oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.


somebody has to pay for the environmental damages.


somebody has to pay for Quebec


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:58 am
 


mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
tritium tritium:
oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.


somebody has to pay for the environmental damages.


somebody has to pay for Quebec


somebody has to pay for security.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:14 am
 


Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
tritium tritium:
oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.


somebody has to pay for the environmental damages.


somebody has to pay for Quebec


somebody has to pay for security.


What does Quebec leeching off the rest of Canada have to do with security?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:11 am
 


kal kal:
Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
Benoit Benoit:
mtbr mtbr:
tritium tritium:
oh well, still can get gas for $2.97 a Gallon here.

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litre

Which means I am paying 0.79 cents per litre.

It's funny how The United States get 48% of it gas from Canada and only 18% from the middle east, but pays less than it's supplier.

Canadians = OWNED!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Houston, TX it's even cheaper. LOL

What's funny is that American's are crying about the price at the pump too. :idea: :?:

They want to drill more oil in the USA, and cut out foreign oil. Poor Alberta. :cry: :lol:


it's called TAXES...somebody has to pay for socialist canuckistan.


somebody has to pay for the environmental damages.


somebody has to pay for Quebec


somebody has to pay for security.


What does Quebec leeching off the rest of Canada have to do with security?


Quebec as a new state would mean one more army in the world.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:16 am
 


riiiiiiiiiiight......


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:21 am
 


kal kal:
riiiiiiiiiiight......


Never too late to twig!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:51 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Gas here in PG is currently 1.26, and it's not even summer. Funny thing is crude went down a little. Now we are so privledged that this June we get to pay another 2.5 cents in tax thanks to our wonderful, open-minded, and politically savvy Premier Gordon Campbell. Enjoy your last shot at leading BC you pompous ass.



Yeah, we get to pay for some carbon tax nonsense in B.C. as well. Gordo has to pay for his olympics somehow I suppose? Not to mention, us folks in the more rural areas of central B.C. can take transit if we don't wanna drive - oh gee, I forgot, how stupid of me, we have no transit. Oh well, there is always a bicycle. :roll: , or maybe one of theose sedgeway jobbies would work well here, especially during the winter. I think I'll ask gordo to provide us with tire chains.


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