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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 am
 


Title: George Soros Foundation to leave Hungary due to hostile climate
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-05-15 09:45:26
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 am
 


I thought this would have happened much sooner given his penchant for supporting illegal immigration to the detriment of countries, his vision of a New World Order and his under the table funding of radical groups bent on destroying anything they deem as "right wing" through legal or illegal means.

But, good on Hungary for waking up and seeing that this divisive prick is behind one hell of alot of the worlds problems. Besides he'll be much happier in Berlin with a gov't and majority of people who think exactly like him.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:22 am
 


It's a damned shame that the Orban government didn't arrest Soros and execute him like he so richly deserves.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:52 am
 


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It's a damned shame that the Orban government didn't arrest Soros and execute him like he so richly deserves.


Orban and is fascist buddies aren't quite like the Arrow Cross Party of yesteryear. AT least not yet.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:55 am
 


Freakinoldguy wrote:
I thought this would have happened much sooner given his penchant for supporting illegal immigration to the detriment of countries, his vision of a New World Order and his under the table funding of radical groups bent on destroying anything they deem as "right wing" through legal or illegal means.

But, good on Hungary for waking up and seeing that this divisive prick is behind one hell of alot of the worlds problems. Besides he'll be much happier in Berlin with a gov't and majority of people who think exactly like him.




'bout freaking time. :lol:


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On a related note ...

Sounds like standard putin playbook

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Hungary is starting to look a bit like Russia. Here's why
By Angela Dewan and Boglarka Kosztolanyi, CNN
Video by Edward Kiernan, CNN

Updated at 8:31 AM ET, Fri April 6, 2018

Budapest, Hungary (CNN) — Opposition parties say Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is too chummy with Russia's Vladimir Putin and that his government is corrupt. Yet Orban is on course to win a third consecutive term in Sunday's general elections.

Hungary, a member of the European Union and NATO, is no autocracy, but after eight years of Orban's rule, its political system has begun to resemble Russia's.

The space for civil society and a functional independent media in Hungary is shrinking rapidly. A law passed in 2011 redrew the lines on the electoral map, in what opposition parties and the media criticized as blatant gerrymandering.

Orban, 54, has made no secret of his admiration for Russia's political system. He has proudly described his vision for Hungary as an "illiberal democracy," a phrase that brings Russia's "sovereign democracy" to mind, both euphemistic terms for an autocratic style of governance.

...In a recent report looking at Russian meddling in Austrian, Czech and Hungarian elections, the Budapest-based Political Capital research institute said Hungary was the most vulnerable of the three countries.

"Hungary represents a case where the government has enabled space for Kremlin interference to shore up its own political strength, which is largely based on anti-migrant and anti-European integration policies," the report says.

....But some of Hungary's new policies look like they're straight out of Russia's playbook.

Hungary passed a law last year that imposes restrictions on nongovernmental organizations receiving foreign funding. The law looks almost identical to Russia's Foreign Agent Law, which has been used to crack down on opposition voices and independent media.

The Hungarian law requires NGOs receiving more than 24,000 euros from foreign entities to register with the government and disclose their sources. Orban has argued it is necessary for transparency and to stamp out money laundering, but Hungarian NGOs see it as an attempt specifically to target organizations funded by billionaire philanthropist George Soros. Soros's Open Society Foundations has been banned from Russia, which sees the organization as a security threat.
The Hungarian government has since last year vilified Soros in countless billboards across the country. One pictures him with opposition party leaders, and another says, "Let's not allow Soros to have the last laugh!"

A Fidesz billboard features Soros among opposition figures and says, "They would dismantle the border fence together."

Peter Szijjarto, the country's foreign affairs minister, defended the campaign, labeling Soros a "national security risk," in a statement. He accused the financier of wanting to demolish a border security fence and "settle hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants in Europe and Hungary." Soros's spokesman said his views have been misrepresented.

Soros was born in Hungary to a Jewish family and fled to the UK in the 1940s to escape Nazi occupation. He later immigrated to the United States, where he became one of the world's richest investors and a philanthropist.
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In fact, it was thanks to a Soros-funded scholarship that Orban was able to study at the University of Oxford.

The anti-Soros campaign sits uncomfortably close to a resurgence of anti-Semitism in the country, which has entered Hungarian politics in parliamentary debate.

...Orban's control of the media

Journalist Anita Komuves, 35, says she is targeted by the government on two fronts -- first because she's a reporter and second as someone who works for an NGO receiving funding from Soros.

Komuves worked for Hungary's largest opposition print newspaper, Nepszabadsag, for 11 years before it was shut down suddenly in 2016. She found out about the closure from a news alert on her phone.

The government denies shutting it down, but Komuves says that it "was obviously a political decision."

"It was because we uncovered too many stories about corruption."

The company that owned the newspaper, Mediaworks, was sold just weeks later to Lorinc Meszaros, a close Orban ally.

"This way, they took over TV channels, several radio channels, the biggest news portal, a few weekly magazines and the entire regional media outside Budapest," Komuves said.
Journalists and supporters of newspaper Nepszabadsag protest in Budapest on October 16, 2016.

Journalists and supporters of newspaper Nepszabadsag protest in Budapest on October 16, 2016.

Komuves thought about leaving her profession, but she found a job with Atlatszo, an NGO of journalists, hackers and lawyers, one of the few remaining independent media organizations left in the country

In a recent article, she argued that while there was evidence of Russian trolling and fake news sites in Hungary, Moscow didn't need to try particularly hard to influence the vote, because Orban and his government already lean toward Moscow and they lead in the polls.

State media has also expanded under Orban and is working as a propaganda machine, Komuves said. It has picked up a significant number of news stories by Russia's Sputnik and Russia Today, both widely considered mouthpieces of the Russian government.

Orban has also used the law to clamp down on the media, spearheading legislation that established a new parliament-appointed media control body that fined media outlets for "imbalanced" news coverage, or content that the body considers "insulting" to the majority.

The financial crisis of 2008 left many media organizations open to takeovers. Around 90% of Hungary's media is now either directly or indirectly controlled by Orban's Fidesz party, according to Marius Dragomir, director at the Centre for Media, Data and Society at the Central European University's School of Public Policy.

Writing in a blog post for the London School of economics, he described the situation as "a classic case of media capture."
The widely watched TV2 was bought by a Hungarian-American former Hollywood producer, Andy Vajna, who had worked in Orban's government. He won the procurement in a legal battle against Lajos Simicska, a media tycoon and friend-turned-foe of Orban.

Swaths of local media were also bought up by Meszaros, an Orban ally who rose from working as a gas fitter to become a wealthy businessman and the mayor of the town where Orban was born, Felcsut.


https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/04/06/europe ... index.html


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:10 pm
 


CNN has some wacky conspiracy where anybody who's anti-Soros must be a puppet of Putin.

Should we be shocked or surprised? Image

Putin should come influence BC if the worst he's going to do is offer up something like this:

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Hungary passed a law last year that imposes restrictions on nongovernmental organizations receiving foreign funding.


Those foreign funded, professional pipeline protesters would disappear overnight if we had that one. Many of us would be dancing in the streets is the worse that would happen there.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:29 am
 


xerxes wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
It's a damned shame that the Orban government didn't arrest Soros and execute him like he so richly deserves.


Orban and is fascist buddies aren't quite like the Arrow Cross Party of yesteryear. AT least not yet.


The really wild anti-Semitism that exists, and has always existed, among Hungarians can't be underestimated. They were a willing ally of the Third Reich in World War Two and shipped their Jews off to Auschwitz as fast as they could when Hitler demanded it from them. A lot of this has been papered over and somewhat forgotten due to the Hungarians being under Soviet control for forty-five years. If Soros weren't a Jew the intensity of the dark and constant hatred that's being aimed at him in Hungary, and elsewhere too, would be a fraction of what it currently is today.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:32 am
 


Thanos wrote:
If Soros weren't a Jew...


...then the Israelis would surely have abducted him and tried him for his crimes against humanity.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:05 am
 


Orban doesn't want Soros financing NGOs causing problems along the Hungarian border. These NGOs are not charities. Orban is one of the few world leaders to recognize this. He not only taxed them, he taxed them 25%.

This makes Orban the devil and Soros the martyr to Progressive media like CNN and the idiots who fall for their conspiratorial BS that always ends in "Russians."

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:27 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Thanos wrote:
If Soros weren't a Jew...


...then the Israelis would surely have abducted him and tried him for his crimes against humanity.


Odd, since his multiple visits to Israel over his lifetime never saw the government there even talk about such a thing.


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Thanos wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
Thanos wrote:
If Soros weren't a Jew...


...then the Israelis would surely have abducted him and tried him for his crimes against humanity.


Odd, since his multiple visits to Israel over his lifetime never saw the government there even talk about such a thing.


Read what I said carefully.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:36 am
 


You think the Israeli government would have let the worst kapo of all time, that you conspiracy fools have made Soros into, walk this world freely and ignore all the crimes you keep saying he committed during the Holocaust just because he's a fellow Jew? Looks like post-war Israeli justice regarding those who collaborated with the Nazis is just another one of the endless items on the list you guys really need to study.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:39 am
 


Soros wields a great deal of power and because he is Jewish an awful lot of people both let him slide on it and they're also averse to the bad optics they'd get from prosecuting someone whose defense will inevitably include claims of being a victim of the Holocaust.

But if he were just another Hungarian? The Mossad or the Shin Bet would have killed him dead back in the early 1960's at the latest.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:15 pm
 


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This makes Orban the devil and Soros the martyr to Progressive media like CNN and the idiots who fall for their conspiratorial BS that always ends in "Russians."


Orban is the bad guy because he's turned Hungary from a liberal democracy into a proto-authoritarian state.


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