[N_Fiddledog]

Although...ya know...there is a kind of truth buried in the Billings Montana, oddball, state rep's apparent belief system that this particular conservative doesn't have a problem going along with.

Do you know what the Overton window is?

Overton Window

Not so much the constitution but the overton window has shifted in a way that Communists and Socialists are accepted in American society in a way they didn't used to be.

[Thanos]

It's also shifted in a way that neo-Nazis are now accepted in a way they never were before, to the point where they can form part of the base of an American president and the rest of the members of the big tent don't blink an eye over it.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

It's also shifted in a way that neo-Nazis are now accepted in a way they never were before, to the point where they can form part of the base of an American president and the rest of the members of the big tent don't blink an eye over it.

My first instinct was to call BS on that one too but there is something provably factual about it.

Neo-nazi groups are growing, or so they tell me. I think you can blame the progressive media for that one though. They kept on thrusting the tiny groups of neo-nazis and white nationalists into the mainstream news so that it had an eventual effect of normalizing them making them more acceptable to borderline types.

In fact another media consequence was the blurring of the line between what were essentially anti-progressives or if you would prefer the "alt-right" and legitimate Nazis and white nationalists.

Still...a big chunk of what you or others are told are neo-nazis aren't anything like them.

[BartSimpson]

The people in Venezuela would love to shoot the fucking socialists had they not been so foolish to have first given up their guns.

[Thanos]

As they should to any tyrant of that ilk. As should everyone everywhere. Just make sure that it's actual hardcore authoritarian socialists you're going to be shooting, and not someone who merely thinks there should be national pharmacare or well-funded public education. There's a bit of an obvious difference between the two realms of thought.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

As they should to any tyrant of that ilk. As should everyone everywhere. Just make sure that it's actual hardcore authoritarian socialists you're going to be shooting, and not someone who merely thinks there should be national pharmacare or well-funded public education. There's a bit of an obvious difference between the two realms of thought.

See this is the problem with thinking you're superior to some news because other news has told you there's something wrong with it - therefore you are the superior being for remaining ignorant.

If you'd seen the James O'keefe exposes of the Bernie troops you'd be right to be suspicious that a core of Bernie types are all too willing - in fact just waiting - to go all 'Kristallnacht' on the way to full out, control the means of production, socialism.

That doesn't mean you want to go out and bag yourself a Bernie Bro', but it does give you even better clarity on why America needs a second amendment.

[herbie]

Quit shitting bricks, Bernie's OLD. Really really old. He could have a massive stroke and turn into an ineffectual drooling moron like the current President. You'd only need to teach him how to be a complete asshole too and you'd find bliss!

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

Quit shitting bricks, Bernie's OLD. Really really old. He could have a massive stroke and turn into an ineffectual drooling moron like the current President. You'd only need to teach him how to be a complete asshole too and you'd find bliss!

The Democrats are fucking Bernie over right now so there's little worry he'll get the DNC nomination even if he gets the votes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-med ... g-n1128621

[N_Fiddledog]

I was just listening to the Dana Show on YouTube.

She was talking about how Bernie is doing so well in polling of all the caucuses and she quoted what she says is an old saying.

"Socialism is just Communism with patience."

[N_Fiddledog]

Dana thinks it's not a done deal that the Dems will be able to tilt the bar again with the super delegates. She says there are Dems now who think they got too much bad press last time and they are battling against doing it again.

[BeaverFever]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Just a reminder who the real intolerant fascist pro-dictatorship party is. He was given a chance to walk back his comments and he doubled down on them.
Liberals are evil because they want to offer you affordable healthcare. Somehow that undemocratic. But it�s ok that conservatives want to jail or executive anyone who disagrees with them.

Well history tells that socialists have bumped off millions who had the temerity to disagree with them.

Yeah Kathleen Wynne and the Trudeaus and Merkel and Macron and the socialist governments of Scandinavia have bumped off exactly zero people.

Meanwhile right-wing Latin American death squads and conservative Islamists were armed and bankrolled by Republicans have definitely killed hundreds of thousands if not millions while right wing populist Duterte carry out extrajudicial murders of drug users and actually jail their critics. Trump separates kids from their parents at the border and holds them in inhumane conditions while Bush killed over a million people as a result of his fraudulent war in Iraq that he fabricated evidence to try and justify

The fact that the righties in this thread have all but concurred with this remark and none on this thread have condemned it just goes to show how immoral conservatism is.

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Yeah Kathleen Wynne and the Trudeaus and Merkel and Macron and the socialist governments of Scandinavia have bumped off exactly zero people.

The Scandinavian states are welfare states but they are not socialist states.

https://www.google.com/search?q=scandin ... e&ie=UTF-8

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Liberal politicians are evil because they want to force everyone else to buy their shitty healthcare program that they took care to exempt themselves from buying or using.

If it's so fucking awesome then let them use the same thing everyone else does.

Yet tou object to public healthcare in principle even if they weren’t exemted or if coverage was excellent so don’t pretend you have specific complaints you’re ideologically opposed.

Meanwhile Trump and senate republicans still can’t keep their promise to repeal Obamacare because it’s too popular and despite Italy shortcomings is still better than anything Americans have had in recent decades. In the rest of the sane world, public healthcare is widely supported in both sides of the aisle and is not a partisan issue.

[PluggyRug]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Just a reminder who the real intolerant fascist pro-dictatorship party is. He was given a chance to walk back his comments and he doubled down on them.
Liberals are evil because they want to offer you affordable healthcare. Somehow that undemocratic. But it�s ok that conservatives want to jail or executive anyone who disagrees with them.

Well history tells that socialists have bumped off millions who had the temerity to disagree with them.

Yeah Kathleen Wynne and the Trudeaus and Merkel and Macron and the socialist governments of Scandinavia have bumped off exactly zero people.

Meanwhile right-wing Latin American death squads and conservative Islamists were armed and bankrolled by Republicans have definitely killed hundreds of thousands if not millions while right wing populist Duterte carry out extrajudicial murders of drug users and actually jail their critics. Trump separates kids from their parents at the border and holds them in inhumane conditions while Bush killed over a million people as a result of his fraudulent war in Iraq that he fabricated evidence to try and justify

The fact that the righties in this thread have all but concurred with this remark and none on this thread have condemned it just goes to show how immoral conservatism is.

You know exactly what I mean, so stop trying to justify the socialist utopia.

OMG, did you just use Wynne, Trudope and Murkyhell as examples.

[herbie]

$1:

The Scandinavian states are welfare states but they are not socialist states.

Then I guess public health, education, welfare, pensions gun controls and gov't mandated minimum wages aren't either.
That's why value American's political opinions in as much regard as Big Macs....