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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:35 am
 


Title: 'How can people afford this'': James Bay communities struggle to eat healthy
Category: Economics
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2016-09-12 07:02:41
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$1:
"How can people afford this? Because most of the First Nation communities have 80 to 70 per cent of unemployment and they're on social assistance."
The other half of the coin - no jobs for people.

How important are these communities to us? Do we need them to maintain our claim to sovereignty of the north? If so, then I guess we have to pay people to live there, and make sure the pay is adequate to buy what they need. If not, then let's just give them one way rides out of there to places where they can afford the food.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:43 am
 


andyt andyt:
$1:
"How can people afford this? Because most of the First Nation communities have 80 to 70 per cent of unemployment and they're on social assistance."
The other half of the coin - no jobs for people.


And who in their right mind would invest in building a job-creating business on native land, under corrupt native rules, and then hundreds of miles away from anything meaningful?

These idiots need to move to where the jobs are or else go back to living off the land instead of living off the dole.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:19 am
 


As I say, if we depopulate the north with a policy like that, we could lose our sovereignty over it. It's already shaky. So it may make sense for the govt to invest in keeping people there.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:52 am
 


andyt andyt:
As I say, if we depopulate the north with a policy like that, we could lose our sovereignty over it. It's already shaky. So it may make sense for the govt to invest in keeping people there.


The government needs to get the hell out of the way and let people and businesses settle and populate the north instead of trying to keep it all as some sort of reserve set aside for the natives and the polar bears.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:56 am
 


The govt is not in the way of people settling the north, they would love it. But there's nothing there to draw people and businesses.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:07 am
 


andyt andyt:
The govt is not in the way of people settling the north, they would love it. But there's nothing there to draw people and businesses.


Copper, gold, uranium, hunting, fishing, lumber, diamonds, molybdenum, rare earth metals, etc.

Not to mention oil and coal.

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:20 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
andyt andyt:
The govt is not in the way of people settling the north, they would love it. But there's nothing there to draw people and businesses.


Copper, gold, uranium, hunting, fishing, lumber, diamonds, molybdenum, rare earth metals, etc.

Not to mention oil and coal.

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:


Only problem is when companies set up, then do their mandatory hiring of locals, they run into the concept of 'Indian Time'. People show up for work . . . sometimes. And they take vacation . . .whenever. Then they complain when they come back and someone else was hired to replace them.

The nerve!

You can't run a mining company based on speculative labour.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm
 


That's why the north needs to be colonized and not kept off limits to people who like to work for a living.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's why the north needs to be colonized and not kept off limits to people who like to work for a living.


Russians have done a much better job of getting up North than we have.


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martin14 martin14:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's why the north needs to be colonized and not kept off limits to people who like to work for a living.


Russians Communitsts have done a much better job of getting up North than we have.
FTFY But don't tell Bart.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:24 pm
 


First off the natives would be fine if they were free to roam the land that they once did. We took their land and forced them on to reserves, generally the shitty parts of their traditional territories that European settlers didn't want. But sometimes it turned out that we did want the crappy part after all, so we just took hunks of the reserves, or the whole reserve.

Second of all, it is warming up, so I think you'll see migration northwards. My guess is that in 50 to 100 years, the BC coast will have a climate similar to what Oregon is now.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:26 pm
 


Russia and Canada aren't really comparable for how each has dealt with the north.

Aside from being significantly different in topography, there is significant differences with population size, population rights, environmental concerns, etc.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:15 pm
 


The USSR slaughtered their native populations long ago and the ones who are left are smart enough to know not to provoke Putin because he'd finish the job that Stalin started.


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