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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:19 am
Follow up, this woman was actually killed in an unrelated incident after her testimony: $1: Edmonton prosecutor posthumously protects jailed victim's identity against family's wishes
CBC News wanted to use the real name of the sex assault victim who was jailed. We wanted to show you her face.
'Angela Cardinal' was a young, pretty, Indigenous woman. A photo taken of her by police in June 2014 shows her curled up on a leather sofa in a "soft interview" room, looking shyly and sadly into the camera.
The picture was snapped just hours after Cardinal fought for her life against sexual predator Lance Blanchard. She was questioned by police following her release from hospital where she was treated for extensive injuries.
Question of race in sex assault victim's jailing 'keeps me up at night,' Alberta justice minister says
There's a blanket on her lap and a long piece of bloodstained gauze in a heap beside her.
In April, her mother wrote an affidavit asking the court to release her name. She wanted her dead daughter's story to resonate and be heard. 'Angela Cardinal's' mother
The mother of the sex assault victim wrote in an affidavit, 'It is important that (she) be named so that she is not simply another statistic.' (Zoe Todd/CBC News)
"I believe it's important that [she] be named so that she is not simply another statistic,'" the mother wrote.
"I want people to understand what happened to her and to hear her story. I believe that this is what she would have wanted as well. [She] was very proud and could stand up for herself. She was a strong person. She should have a voice."
With the permission of Cardinal's family, CBC was prepared to go to court to ask for the posthumous publication ban to be lifted. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4147276
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:11 am
That story is such a confusing mess, it's a disaster to figure out what happened. Whoever wrote that should be fired for being so stupid. This gives a better explanation: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4140533The CP, the judge, and whatever idiot attorney she had should be hauled out into the street and flogged.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:30 am
Putting her in shackles and transporting her to and from court hearings with the guy that stabbed and sexually assaulted her. F*cking ridiculous. She may have died, so no restitution can be paid, but the ass holes who ordered this travesty should pay some sort of penalty.
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housewife
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:32 am
Well that's beyond fucked up. It's hard to understand how the hell anyone thought this was acceptable. Everyone involved in this case should be kept up at night not just the justice minister. Fuck
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:52 am
martin14 martin14: That's the story article??
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:07 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Putting her in shackles and transporting her to and from court hearings with the guy that stabbed and sexually assaulted her. F*cking ridiculous. She may have died, so no restitution can be paid, but the ass holes who ordered this travesty should pay some sort of penalty. Nothing will happen to them. Not one thing.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:53 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Putting her in shackles and transporting her to and from court hearings with the guy that stabbed and sexually assaulted her. F*cking ridiculous. She may have died, so no restitution can be paid, but the ass holes who ordered this travesty should pay some sort of penalty. When think about all the people involved in the treatment of this woman, from the crown to the judge, to the courthouse staff and law enforcement it's really disheartening to ask: not one person thought this was wrong? Not one person thought to speak up? This cant just be a random isolated problem when so many people are involved. This story wouldn't have happened if the woman hadn't been indigenous and living on the margins of society.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:25 pm
This story is appalling, just fucking appalling and reading makes my blood boil.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:40 pm
It's hard to believe this actually happened it sounds like an episode of Law & Order SVU. Meanwhile Karla Holmolka is free, like WTF!
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:38 am
Two sides to every story, and Paula Simons of the Edmonton Journal is a hardcore political correctness warrior who screams "racism!" at the system in her columns every chance she gets: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4150750I figured this was the situation that Simons and then the CBC never bothered looking into before they set off this firestorm. Why would any judge order a witness or victim put into custody if he/she didn't believe they were a flight risk and that the case in front of the court would completely collapse without their testimony? More than meets the eye to this particular situation. The initial over-reaction is pretty irresponsible, especially by the Journal and their "star" columnist.
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Posts: 51915
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:54 am
$1: A homeless sex assault victim jailed while testifying against her attacker could have stayed in a hotel, but no one was willing to pick up the tab, CBC News has learned.
Angela Cardinal was attacked and sexually assaulted by Lance Blanchard in June 2014.
During the preliminary hearing a year later, Cardinal was remanded into custody at the Edmonton Remand Centre for five nights at the request of Crown prosecutor Patricia Innes. Sex assault victim jailed after Crown, police refused to pick up hotel bill
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Coach85
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:29 am
Thanos Thanos: Two sides to every story, and Paula Simons of the Edmonton Journal is a hardcore political correctness warrior who screams "racism!" at the system in her columns every chance she gets: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.4150750I figured this was the situation that Simons and then the CBC never bothered looking into before they set off this firestorm. Why would any judge order a witness or victim put into custody if he/she didn't believe they were a flight risk and that the case in front of the court would completely collapse without their testimony? More than meets the eye to this particular situation. The initial over-reaction is pretty irresponsible, especially by the Journal and their "star" columnist. Thank you for providing one of the other perspectives of the case. As a society, we're so quick to be outraged even when all of the facts aren't available.
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:35 am
The judge is no a racist villain, but he's not a hero either. The story in Caleb's link suggests that the proper process (or best practice) to remand her may not have been followed. She was it seems ordered to be remanded solely at the request of the crown based on info supplied by the crown; the problem being the crown is not an impartial actor. It seems that perhaps there should have been a separate hearing where the crown would be required to present a compelling evidence-based argument for her detention, and she would have an advocate able to challenge that argument and evidence.
At any rate, the bigger issue here is that the legal system has no way to deal with mental health and addiction except to treat the people suffering from those conditions as criminals. The "war on drugs" mentality still views these people crooks who need punishment rather than patients who need treatment. Why can't they arrange for people like her to he held in a hospital or group home instead of a prison cell?
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:44 am
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