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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:55 pm
 


Title: Imam facing sex assault charges: Toronto police
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Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2019-06-20 13:09:33
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What do expect? Mohamhead is his example.


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Only white Christians are allowed to commit sex assaults , especially Catholic priests, right?


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BeaverFever wrote:
Only white Christians are allowed to commit sex assaults , especially Catholic priests, right?


Not exactly.

It's more like, 'only identifiable white christian or Catholic priests get wide mainstream media attention for their sexual assaults.'

Nobody's going to get an Academy Award for telling the tale of plucky journalists breaking the story of perverts in religious Islam.


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Mohammad's one wife was 9... so the precedent is certainly there.


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llama66 wrote:
Mohammad's one wife was 9... so the precedent is certainly there.


Technically and the way I heard the story he married her when she was 6 and consummated it when she was 9.

There's a hadith telling of how she arrived his wife in his tent with her doll in her hand.


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Either way, not appropriate imho.


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I think the Ayatollah Khomeini used to advise, what he called, "thighing" when they were as young as Mo's Aisha and doing the total deed at, what Khomeini called, "first blood." But he was a religious man of the preferred religion so no progressive journalist is going to call that newsworthy.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:42 am
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
llama66 wrote:
Mohammad's one wife was 9... so the precedent is certainly there.


Technically and the way I heard the story he married her when she was 6 and consummated it when she was 9.

There's a hadith telling of how she arrived his wife in his tent with her doll in her hand.

She was 6, maybe 9, maybe 13... nobody knows.

13 is still young though... Daenerys was 13 when she married (in the books).


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13 is still young though... Daenerys was 13 when she married (in the books).


And Stannis Baratheon's attack of King's Landing at the Battle of the Blackwater was pretty much a mirror image of one of the Muslim sieges of Constantinople. One gets the feeling George RR Martin knew his Islamic history.


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At this stage the delusional sort of parents who leave their children alone with the leader of ANY religious sect should probably be charged with endangerment for putting the kids in harm's way. Like, c'mon already, it's identical to picking up a scorpion and expecting not to be stung. :|


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Thanos wrote:
... it's identical to picking up a scorpion and expecting not to be stung. :|

I have... and wasn't. :D

EDIT: Took most of my courage, though. :wink:


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N_Fiddledog wrote:
BeaverFever wrote:
Only white Christians are allowed to commit sex assaults , especially Catholic priests, right?


Not exactly.

It's more like, 'only identifiable white christian or Catholic priests get wide mainstream media attention for their sexual assaults.'

Nobody's going to get an Academy Award for telling the tale of plucky journalists breaking the story of perverts in religious Islam.


Yeah jeez there’s like no news stories negatively depicting Muslims eh?

ROTFL

It’s not like there’s a whole Omnibus thread on this site dedicated to sharing all those stories

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raydan wrote:
N_Fiddledog wrote:
llama66 wrote:
Mohammad's one wife was 9... so the precedent is certainly there.


There are all kinds of different ways to interpret the story of Aisha, her age and what it meant to he “married” or

Technically and the way I heard the story he married her when she was 6 and consummated it when she was 9.

There's a hadith telling of how she arrived his wife in his tent with her doll in her hand.

She was 6, maybe 9, maybe 13... nobody knows.

13 is still young though... Daenerys was 13 when she married (in the books).


There are conflicting stories about Aishas age and debate over what and whether any of those stories mean to confer they had sex while she was a young child. But given that we’re talking about medieval times it shouldn’t be ruled out either.

Mary was 12 or 13 when she was married to Joseph and impregnated by her God.

Child marriage was common in Europe in ancient and medieval times and continued up until the industrial revolution. Another white privilege that’s only acceptable for our ancestors, right?


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There are conflicting stories about Aishas age and debate over what and whether any of those stories mean to confer they had sex while she was a young child. But given that we’re talking about medieval times it shouldn’t be ruled out either.

Mary was 12 or 13 when she was married to Joseph and impregnated by her God.

Child marriage was common in Europe in ancient and medieval times and continued up until the industrial revolution. Another white privilege that’s only acceptable for our ancestors, right?


You gotta start reading the links you're given, Beave. It won't be so easy knock you on your ass (and that's getting tedious. :wink: )

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Hadiths that Muslims consider authentic record that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.

Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”

According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.

“US govt approved thousands of child bride requests,” AP, January 12, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

WASHINGTON: Thousands of requests by men originally from other countries, including Pakistan, to bring in child and adolescent brides to live in the United States were approved over the past decade, according to government data obtained by AP news agency. In one case, a 49-year-old man applied for admission for a 15-year-old girl.

The approvals are legal: the Immigration and Nationality Act does not set minimum age requirements. And in weighing petitions for spouses or fiancées, US Citizenship and Immigration Services goes by whether the marriage is legal in the home country and whether the marriage would be legal in the state where the petitioner lives.

But the data raises questions about whether the immigration system may be enabling forced marriage and about how US laws may be compounding the problem despite efforts to limit child and forced marriage. Marriage between adults and minors is not uncommon in the US, and most states allow children to marry with some restrictions.

There were more than 5,000 cases of adults petitioning on behalf of minors and nearly 3,000 examples of minors seeking to bring in older spouses or fiancés, according to the data requested by the Senate Homeland Security Committee in 2017 and compiled into a report.

Some victims of forced marriage say the lure of a US passport combined with lax US marriage laws are partly fuelling the petitions.

“My passport ruined my life,” said Naila Amin, a dual citizen from Pakistan who grew up in New York City. She was forcibly married at 13 in Pakistan and applied for papers for her 26-year-old husband to come to the country.

“People die to come to America,” she said. “I was a passport to him. They all wanted him here, and that was the way to do it.”

Amin, now 29, said she was betrothed to her first cousin Tariq when she was just eight and he was 21. The petition was eventually terminated after she ran away.

She said the ordeal cost her a childhood. She was in and out of foster care and group homes, and it took a while to get her life on track.

“I was a child. I want to know: why weren’t any red flags raised? Whoever was processing this application, they don’t look at it? They don’t think?” she asked.

Over that period, there were 5,556 approvals for those seeking to bring in minor spouses or fiancées, and 2,926 approvals by minors seeking to bring in older spouses, according to the data. Additionally, there were 204 approvals of applications by minors seeking to bring in minor spouses….

USCIS didn’t know how many of the approvals were granted by the State Department, but overall only about 2.6 per cent of spousal or fiancée claims are rejected.

Separately, the data show some 4,749 minor spouses or fiancées received green cards to live in the US over that same 10-year period.

The country where most requests came from was Mexico, followed by Pakistan, Jordan, the Dominican Republic and Yemen. Middle Eastern nationals had the highest percentage of overall approved petitions.


And you didn't see any of that in the media, did you?

But the problem isn't what you believe. It's what Islam's most authentic texts teach and what too many Mohammedan followers believe. And what comes of that.

Catholics aren't banging choirboys today because they're following the example of Jesus Christ. Mohammedans can't make that boast concerning their religious leader and they have at least as many problems. In fact the informed mind would have to admit there are many more problems with many serious or more serious repercussions.

The problem isn't that some stuff isn't so blatant and outrageous even the MSM can't bury it. The problem is what the gullible and ignorant who refuse to check the wider evidence don't see.


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