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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:29 pm
 


Title: Jim Flaherty, federal finance minister, quits politics
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2014-03-18 13:28:54
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:29 pm
 


That must have been one hell of a jim-dandy St. Paddy's day party, last night!!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:39 pm
 


Maybe he was out with Rob Ford.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:40 pm
 


Zipperfish wrote:
Maybe he was out with Rob Ford.


I'm sure The Star woulda been mass e-mailing us if that was the case.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:08 pm
 


My money is on Lisa Raitt being tapped as Canada's first female Finance Minister ever! :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:59 pm
 


It's Joe Oliver


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:54 pm
 


I'm glad that it wasn't Tony Clement. I wouldn't trust him any further than ...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:25 pm
 


andyt wrote:
It's Joe Oliver


Bankster.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:58 pm
 


andyt wrote:
It's Joe Oliver



Nothings going to change. He's just the new 'figure head'. The Snivel Servants behind the scenes remain the same.


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Garth Turner gives us his perspective on Flaherty's failures and Boss Harper...




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The prime minister warned me to behave, which meant ceasing to write online; stop talking to people across the country; and no more putting constituents above party. He accused me of being a ‘media star’, and as we sat face-to-face in his office one evening he said: “Journalists make lousy politicians because they think they always need to tell the truth.” Things were not going well.

Soon after, in a closed-door caucus meeting, the PMO orchestrated my ouster. Before that happened, F stood, took to the microphone, looked squarely at me and said, “Garth Turner needs to know he is not leading an alternative government.” And in a few minutes that was quite clear. I was out on my ass.

I mention this in the spirit of full disclosure. Jim Flaherty and I have had our moments. Today, after eight years, he quit. Why would he do that?

One answer might have come during a speech two hours earlier by Stephen Poloz, the boss of the Bank of Canada. It was dismal enough to send the dollar careening lower to the 89-cent level, and flash an alert to trading desks across the nation. “The possibility of secular stagnation needs to be taken seriously,” he said. Stagnation? When the US economy is weeding higher?

And then this report: “Poloz said a combination of low demand and investment, and high savings that have been directed to less productive uses such as housing, may keep growth well below normal levels over a long period and mean low interest rates could prove to be less stimulative than in the past.”

So, six years into ‘Canada’s Economic Action Plan’ we have the possibility of deflation, a dollar which has plunged, no new net job creation for six months, record household debt, economic stagnation and a housing market which cheap rates have turned into an income-sucking gasbag.

And now Poloz has been forced to utter more words of defeat. When asked if he rules out the possibility of having to cut rates further, even though it will create more debt and ultimately more trouble, he said: “If the balance of risks were to shift so that the risks on the downside for inflation were increased, then we would need to reconsider.”

Needless to say, a rate cut would be the ultimate admission the minister of finance failed. Comatose economic growth. Lost jobs. The spectre of deflation. And yet a population sucked into unholy gobs of indebtedness as they use in-the-ditch mortgages to speculate in leveraged real estate. The latter was encouraged, of course, by F’s greatest misstep – giving us 40-year insured mortgages and zero-down financing even as the US housing market imploded.

Today the federal debt is $685 billion. It was $549 billion when Jim and I we ate eggs. He says the budget will be balanced soon, but years of fat deficits have taken a toll. Now, if the Bank of Canada’s right, we may need more stimulus to get out of a new screwup.

Without a doubt, the prime minister knows he needs a reboot. Twenty months remain before the next federal election, and it’s time to bury a strategy that cost the country $140 billion yet no longer works. If the deflation monster isn’t offed soon, there’ll be one mess of angry homeowners in the autumn of 2015. Then again, it’s probably too late.




More plus -------- I asked him to do a podcast with me. Sure, he said. Here’s the unedited interview from February 25, 2006:




http://www.greaterfool.ca/2014/03/18/f/


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:20 am
 


Today, after eight years, he quit. Why would he do that?


I don't think that his health is too good. Maybe I'm wrong but he hasn't ben looking quite right. There is obviously more here than meets the eye. He has had some policy differences with Harper lately, who is a notorious control freak but Flaherty has always been an asset to Harper and his replacement is hardly "sellable" in the next election. Perhaps, Harper is next to resign and they are trying to "renew" themselves.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:51 am
 


Centre wrote:
Garth Turner gives us his perspective on Flaherty's failures and Boss Harper...




Quote:
The prime minister warned me to behave, which meant ceasing to write online; stop talking to people across the country; and no more putting constituents above party. He accused me of being a ‘media star’, and as we sat face-to-face in his office one evening he said: “Journalists make lousy politicians because they think they always need to tell the truth.” Things were not going well.

Soon after, in a closed-door caucus meeting, the PMO orchestrated my ouster. Before that happened, F stood, took to the microphone, looked squarely at me and said, “Garth Turner needs to know he is not leading an alternative government.” And in a few minutes that was quite clear. I was out on my ass.

I mention this in the spirit of full disclosure. Jim Flaherty and I have had our moments. Today, after eight years, he quit. Why would he do that?

One answer might have come during a speech two hours earlier by Stephen Poloz, the boss of the Bank of Canada. It was dismal enough to send the dollar careening lower to the 89-cent level, and flash an alert to trading desks across the nation. “The possibility of secular stagnation needs to be taken seriously,” he said. Stagnation? When the US economy is weeding higher?

And then this report: “Poloz said a combination of low demand and investment, and high savings that have been directed to less productive uses such as housing, may keep growth well below normal levels over a long period and mean low interest rates could prove to be less stimulative than in the past.”

So, six years into ‘Canada’s Economic Action Plan’ we have the possibility of deflation, a dollar which has plunged, no new net job creation for six months, record household debt, economic stagnation and a housing market which cheap rates have turned into an income-sucking gasbag.

And now Poloz has been forced to utter more words of defeat. When asked if he rules out the possibility of having to cut rates further, even though it will create more debt and ultimately more trouble, he said: “If the balance of risks were to shift so that the risks on the downside for inflation were increased, then we would need to reconsider.”

Needless to say, a rate cut would be the ultimate admission the minister of finance failed. Comatose economic growth. Lost jobs. The spectre of deflation. And yet a population sucked into unholy gobs of indebtedness as they use in-the-ditch mortgages to speculate in leveraged real estate. The latter was encouraged, of course, by F’s greatest misstep – giving us 40-year insured mortgages and zero-down financing even as the US housing market imploded.

Today the federal debt is $685 billion. It was $549 billion when Jim and I we ate eggs. He says the budget will be balanced soon, but years of fat deficits have taken a toll. Now, if the Bank of Canada’s right, we may need more stimulus to get out of a new screwup.

Without a doubt, the prime minister knows he needs a reboot. Twenty months remain before the next federal election, and it’s time to bury a strategy that cost the country $140 billion yet no longer works. If the deflation monster isn’t offed soon, there’ll be one mess of angry homeowners in the autumn of 2015. Then again, it’s probably too late.




More plus -------- I asked him to do a podcast with me. Sure, he said. Here’s the unedited interview from February 25, 2006:




http://www.greaterfool.ca/2014/03/18/f/



Garth who? That guy is still around? Why does he think we give a shit what he has to say?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:05 am
 


Centre wrote:



You read Turner's blog ? 8O

I figured I was the only one. :lol:


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