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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:06 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
What does that say about us, I wonder.


That the dismantling of the old and sane Canada that our parents and grandparents lived in is complete, and we today are left with a regionalized and factionalized mess that can never be repaired. And that the project Justin's father began in the late 1960's to change the country so much that no one would recognize it at all when they were done with their social engineering agenda has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.


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Wow that's some list (Although I think you forgot Khadr.)

Khadr is not a Trudeau fuck up. That is, ironically, one of his better moves. I can guarantee that the bill would have been higher if it had gone fully through the courts. The precedent was $10 million. The courts would have certainly added inflation increases from the original precedent's date.

This is one that our entire government dropped the ball on, and they all should wear the yolk for it.
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Right!!!! Like come on....can we at least get one decent, hard working, honest politician a lifetime....just one.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:50 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
If one believes polls there are still Canadians who are going to vote for him.

What does that say about us, I wonder.

What does it say about our options?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:54 pm
 


peck420 wrote:
I can guarantee that the bill would have been higher if it had gone fully through the courts.


Well, if you're guaranteeing it...

You may be right though. That 'pay off the jihadi' boner may have been more another one we can credit to Justin's Darth Vader of a father and in this case his misnomered charter of rights and freedoms.


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Shall we review ? Let's review. :D


Your minister of finance engaged in insider trading – should be a 10 year sentence.
You blew the Asia Pacific deal.
You blew the helicopter deal with the Philippines.
You blew the pipeline deal (he's now trying to save himself from it).
You blew the deal with China.
You blew the deal with Europe.
You invited "irregular" immigration and the taxpayer foots the enormous bill for it.
You alienated the United States – our largest trading partner.
At the G7 you pledged $400 million to Education around the world along with another $180 million to the Global Partnership for Education in Europe. None of it is going to fix our messed up school systems here at home. Meanwhile education costs are skyrocketing for our youth making university a mountain too high for many to climb.
You pledged $241 million to Family Planning around the world including a $20 million donation to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation (because they have integrity!). This all happened while you told vets that they were asking too much.
You pledged $2.65 billion to climate change at the Commonwealth Leaders Summit and now you’re trying to bully the provinces into new taxes to pay for this pledge.
You pledged $300 million to the Rohingya Refugee crisis while we have a refugee crisis of our own flooding into Quebec that you won't address.
You pledged $125 million to Caribbean Reconstruction while our own infrastructure in cities is falling apart.
You pledged $650 million to Sexual and Reproductive health in Haiti and around the globe wanting safer abortions for woman while many women in our own country are left without a family doctor.
You pledged $50 million to Palestine for flood relief when NB had some of the worst flooding in decades this past spring.
You pledged $840 million to Syria for Humanitarian Assistance when half the native reserves in our country don't have clean drinking water.
You gave $10.5 million to a convicted...CONVICTED terrorist in a backroom deal that has lead to another $30.8 million paid out for three others who say they were wrongfully detained.
You spent $4.5 billion on a 65 year old pipeline, and now the courts have ruled it shut down. Now it's back on (at a delay cost of $250 million) - good investment for Canada you said? (And KM uses that money to build a pipeline in Texas)
You pressured Jody Wilson Raybould repeatedly & INAPPROPRIATELY with several different high ranking officials to offer SNC Lavalin a DPA instead of prosecution for repeated & sustained corruption AFTER the former AG had determined they were ineligible for such a deal. You lied about the above having ever taken place.
You replaced Canada’s old F-18s with Australia’s old F-18s.
Your bizarre love of all things Castro.
You imposed tough regulations and taxes on oil from Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland but not oil from Saudi Arabia.
Every new project has to undergo strict environmental assessments...except cement plants in Quebec.
You said that a proposed pipeline must consider “the intersection of sex and gender with other identity factors” (what does that even mean???)
You think older Canadians should be replaced. How is that moral?
You chase foreign companies (and their investment capital) out of the country like they have the plague.
You chased our WW1 soldiers out of our national anthem... lest we forget.
You continuously use identity politics...then complain about identity politics.
You forgot Alberta was a province.
You called small business owners “tax cheats”.
People voice concern over money spent on illegal immigration and you call them intolerant racists.
We have an equalization program, but you give half of it to one province.
You spent $8 million on a skating rink (vanity project) when Canada's largest skating rink is 500 meters away.
You added tens of billions added to the national debt while lying to Canada's face about it.
You groped a woman and when caught - laughed about it (MacLean's interview) and said she experienced it differently.
You elbowed a female MP while dragging another MP by the arm in a petulant huff.
You renamed Fishermen to "Fisher-folk"
Peoplekind? (international embarrassment)
You got India to invest $250 million in Canada but we have to invest $750 million in India first.
You compared returning ISIS terrorists to Italian immigrants and said they will be an extraordinary powerful voice for Canada.
You let terrorists keep their Canadian citizenship.
You spent $212,234 on artwork for the cover of the 2017 budget report.
You think Canada is 100 years old instead of 150.
You spent upwards to $348,000 on food and alcohol in five flights on our government’s plane. On your G20 trip to Argentina, you spent $103,000 on food and alcohol alone. How is that even possible?
You gave Canadian taxpayers' money to Hamas.
You voice outrage over fake racist attacks and say nothing about real terrorist attacks.
You took 10 vacations in a single year. Who does this??
You spent a little over $1.5 million on the trip to India that did nothing but worsen ties. Plus paid over $17,000 to bring an Indian chef to India to cook Indian cuisine. And to top it off, invited a convicted attempted assassin to diner and posed for pics with him.
And you’re the only PM convicted of ethics violations. (multiple times in fact)
You allegedly destroyed the career of one of Canada’s honest military leaders to cover up possible massive corruption in ship building contracts.
You invited Joshua Boyle, an alleged perpetrator of sexual assault and unlawful confinement for a photoshoot in the Office of The Prime Minister.
You threaten to sue the leader of the opposition then chicken out when you realized that your alleged crimes will be exposed in court.
You offer over $600 million dollars in subsidies to failing mainstream media outlets if they can prove to be trustworthy. You put a union who vows to destroy your opposition in charge of selecting these new “trusted” sources to receive funding. You could school the Russians in election interference.
You pay off your friends to engage in election ads for you and get Elections Canada to pay for it.
$200 million to Loblaws for new refrigerators.
You made public statements of deep admiration for Chinese communism.
You wore preposterous, inappropriate costumes during a state visit to India, paid for by Canadians.
My Blackface, x 3

What moral, functioning Canadian human could possible justify voting for you?



Wow so many lies, exaggerations and selective truth telling in there I don’t know where to start. Just your usual conservative bullshit though.

But glad your Trudeau Derangement is so severe you wasted your day typing that all up. JT rules your life

ROTFL


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Cognitive dissonance much, Beave?

Must be entertaining for you though. You should write a book: Life behind the reality distortion field.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:48 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
That the dismantling of the old and sane Canada that our parents and grandparents lived in is complete, and we today are left with a regionalized and factionalized mess that can never be repaired. And that the project Justin's father began in the late 1960's to change the country so much that no one would recognize it at all when they were done with their social engineering agenda has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

Hell, I was born in the mid-eighties and this country is almost unrecognizable from the one I was raised in. :|


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:31 pm
 


Thanos wrote:
N_Fiddledog wrote:
What does that say about us, I wonder.


That the dismantling of the old and sane Canada that our parents and grandparents lived in is complete, and we today are left with a regionalized and factionalized mess that can never be repaired. And that the project Justin's father began in the late 1960's to change the country so much that no one would recognize it at all when they were done with their social engineering agenda has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.


Right on. Are we to repeat our mistakes in October? I fear we might.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:38 pm
 


N_Fiddledog wrote:
You know what the most outrageous fact about Justin is though?

If one believes polls there are still Canadians who are going to vote for him.

What does that say about us, I wonder.


As their only other choice is either the one without any climate policy or the party stupid enough to elect a leader who'll wag the biggest, floppiest and brightest religious symbol possible in the face of the province they once made their greatest gain in.
Exactly why I'm considering voting Green.


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As far as I'm concerned climate policy is highly overrated. Let's concentrate on cleaning the air, water and our immediate surroundings. The climate is going to change regardless of how badly we ruin our economy. Let's do something about the things we can control. Clean air, clean water and clean towns and cities.


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Here's my take on it:

It was an incredibly stupid, foolish thing to do even if Trudeau never planned to run for office. Jagmeet Singh spoke very eloquently about the hurt and disgust a lot of racialized Canadians probably feel about this.

No party's hands are clean in this, though, not when past icons of other parties (e.g. Tommy Douglas or John A. Macdonald) have said and done things that were just as bad. I'd also say we're wasting an opportunity to have a larger discussion about racialization issues like blackface (and other equivalents such as non-Natives wearing Indigenous headdresses) instead of just scoring cheap points off Trudeau. Jagmeet Singh can obviously speak to it, but if I were Trudeau, Elizabeth May or Andrew Scheer I'd give the mic over to some of my POC candidates who might be willing to contribute and get them some media attention.

There are a couple of other takeaways from this. As others have pointed out, this is taking focus away from other important issues such as the environment, the deficit, equipping the military, Indigenous issues, and many others. That's what the election should be decided on.

Finally, this incident doesn't really surprise me. It fits a pattern not of racism, but of very poor judgement. Long before he became Prime Minister, I was already having doubts about Trudeau based on his comments about multilingualism or his admiring China's dictatorship.
Chris Selley was commenting in the National Post today about what this could do to Trudeau in attacks from the left, but I'm not so sure. Trudeau was already getting a lot of heat from leftists about everything from his ditched electoral reform promise to his buying TransMountain X to the problems Indigenous people still have to deal with.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd suggest this plays more to the advantage of the NDP than the Conservatives, and probably motivate the NDP base more than harm the Liberals. I've already seen reports in the Globe and Mail and on Twitter from various POC, including in Trudeau's riding, who aren't inclined to hate on him for it. People who are already devoted members of Team Trudeau probably won't ditch him over it, especially if it was 18 years ago and he apologized for it.


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Hell, I was born in the mid-eighties and this country is almost unrecognizable from the one I was raised in.

Yeah right. Haven't had to go on any anti-nuke or pro-choice rallies these days but you still need to buy no-name diapers after paying off daycare.
And there;s no more Easter Be-In, it's now 4-20.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:48 pm
 


peck420 wrote:
Khadr is not a Trudeau fuck up.


Sending the money overseas to hide it from the American courts was certainly Dopey's call.



BeaverFever wrote:
you wasted your day typing that all up.


If you only knew how wrong you are, you wouldn't post here for a week. :lol:
However ignorance is bliss, and you are really blissful.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:08 pm
 


Martin15 wrote:
peck420 wrote:
Khadr is not a Trudeau fuck up.


Sending the money overseas to hide it from the American courts was certainly Dopey's call.



BeaverFever wrote:
you wasted your day typing that all up.


If you only knew how wrong you are, you wouldn't post here for a week. :lol:
However ignorance is bliss, and you are really blissful.


You are the one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about, I’m afraid. As usual


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:26 pm
 


Your pathetic attempt to derail this thread has been noted.. and laughed at.


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