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Title: Kenney warns of constitutional challenge if environmental assessment overhaul is passed as written
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2019-05-02 10:12:23
Canadian

[Dragontail69]

Gonna have to say frick the Indigenous participation. Not needed and not required. Abolish the Indian Act - no special rights for any Canadian time to move into the future and stop being rooted to the past.

[herbie]

Your bigotes statement doesn't even make sense.
The PAST was when we didn't give a flying fuck what the natives wanted. You seem to be rooted there.

[N_Fiddledog]

Dragontail69 Dragontail69:

Gonna have to say frick the Indigenous participation. Not needed and not required. Abolish the Indian Act - no special rights for any Canadian time to move into the future and stop being rooted to the past.

I get what you're saying. Equal treatment for all Canadians.

The left doesn't get it. It's the difference between equity and equality. The right wants equality in a way that every body starts the race from the same starting point then does their best. The left wants equity in that once the race begins everybody is forced to run at the speed of the slowest competitor. In that way everybody arrives at the finish line at the same time.

You want to run the race with Jimmy George. Look over to him nod and say, "may the best man win." Herb thinks this makes you a bigot. I'd like to hear the argument for that.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Dragontail69 Dragontail69:

Gonna have to say frick the Indigenous participation. Not needed and not required. Abolish the Indian Act - no special rights for any Canadian time to move into the future and stop being rooted to the past.

I get what you're saying. Equal treatment for all Canadians.

The left doesn't get it. It's the difference between equity and equality. The right wants equality in a way that every body starts the race from the same starting point then does their best. The left wants equity in that once the race begins everybody is forced to run at the speed of the slowest competitor. In that way everybody arrives at the finish line at the same time.

You want to run the race with Jimmy George. Look over to him nod and say, "may the best man win." Herb thinks this makes you a bigot. I'd like to hear the argument for that.

If you seriously think its ever been the case that everyone starts the race at the same starting point you are naive as fuck.

A common expression about conservative idols like Trump and the Bushes is that they’re born on third base and think they hit a triple, that mentality is on full display here.

First Nations are a distinct political entity not unlike provinces and they aren’t under the jurisdiction of the provinces the same way you and I are, si hy shouldn’t they participate in the same way provinces do?

[Thanos]

Wonder if Trudeau is as obsessed with including gender "balance" in Eastern Canadian industries like the auto sector, banking, Bombardier, SNC Lavalin, dairy, and fisheries as he is in imposing it in oil & gas. Jesus H. Cripes, this country sometimes.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

Wonder if Trudeau is as obsessed with including gender "balance" in Eastern Canadian industries like the auto sector, banking, Bombardier, SNC Lavalin, dairy, and fisheries as he is in imposing it in oil & gas. Jesus H. Cripes, this country sometimes.

Where is he imposing gender balance specifically in the oil industry ?

[Thanos]

It's one of his favourite features of Bill C-69, gender equity in O&G construction projects as part of the social license umbrella. That you're never ever gonna see a perfect 50/50 split between *cis-men and women/trannies on a pipeline or oilsands project because there simply aren't enough women or trannies to fill half those jobs in an industry that works in harsh conditions seems irrelevant to our government. So let it be written, so let it be done, as all pharaohs assume the world works.

*evil! pure evil! especially if most of them are white!

[Freakinoldguy]

This bill is utter folly because the Gov't becomes the regulatory body for all major infrastructure projects. And, as we all know the gov't could give a shit about the rank and file Canadians so any hope of getting them to do what the majority wants when it comes to things like honestly assessing the environmental impacts of these projects is slim to none.

I also don't like the fact that it's the Gov't who decides whether the natives have been consulted with enough or not and whether these projects impact them because, as we all know when it comes to dealing with the Natives, certain political parties put their interests over the interests of the country as a whole.

But the real terrifying thing is that this bill puts Canada's future in the hands of an institution which, partisan politics aside has proven time and time again that it's the least qualified one to be running anything especially honest large scale infrastructure projects.

[llama66]

$1:

First Nations are a distinct political entity not unlike provinces and they aren’t under the jurisdiction of the provinces the same way you and I are, si hy shouldn’t they participate in the same way provinces do?

Ummm... because they are not Provinces. You answered your own question, the federal government represents them.

The Indian Act creates and perpetuates a system where there is two classes of people, Normal Citizens and Natives, Beve, you're fine with this? Abolish the act, allow the natives to intergrate with society.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

It's one of his favourite features of Bill C-69, gender equity in O&G construction projects as part of the social license umbrella. That you're never ever gonna see a perfect 50/50 split between *cis-men and women/trannies on a pipeline or oilsands project because there simply aren't enough women or trannies to fill half those jobs in an industry that works in harsh conditions seems irrelevant to our government. So let it be written, so let it be done, as all pharaohs assume the world works.

*evil! pure evil! especially if most of them are white!

Nothing in this bill has anything to do with regulating hiring or employment so you’re wrong there.

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

If you seriously think its ever been the case that everyone starts the race at the same starting point you are naive as fuck.

It's true. You're proof of your own premise.

[llama66]

$1:

If you seriously think its ever been the case that everyone starts the race at the same starting point you are naive as fuck.

Of course not, but everyone should have equal opportunity to race amenities. Equality of opportunity. Not equality of outcome.

[Thanos]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

It's one of his favourite features of Bill C-69, gender equity in O&G construction projects as part of the social license umbrella. That you're never ever gonna see a perfect 50/50 split between *cis-men and women/trannies on a pipeline or oilsands project because there simply aren't enough women or trannies to fill half those jobs in an industry that works in harsh conditions seems irrelevant to our government. So let it be written, so let it be done, as all pharaohs assume the world works.

*evil! pure evil! especially if most of them are white!

Nothing in this bill has anything to do with regulating hiring or employment so you’re wrong there.

Then what was the point of including gender equity nonsense in C-69 at all? And why leave other sectors of the economy exempt from it altogether? If it isn't a threat to O&G to dance to the Liberal party's social policies in order to get approvals then why was it included at all? Scare the Western racists/sexists/anti-tranny Neanderthals into co-operation but don't level the same intimidation at the much more "enlightened" Bay Street?

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

If you seriously think its ever been the case that everyone starts the race at the same starting point you are naive as fuck.

So tell me something then Mr. Wizard. America led the world to a level of progress civilization had never seen. The poorest westerner has things a middle ages king couldn't dream of. How did that happen? It didn't happen everywhere? It happened in the West.

I say it took a set of ideals where you have the right to the pursuit of happiness among other rights.

You're given gifts at birth - anything from speed or intelligence to rich parents, then you're off. Not every speedy, smart or rich kid makes it but they all start with the right to pursue their happiness providing they recognize their responsibility not to obstruct the rights of others. They start from that starting line.

What would you do? Weight the speedy guy's gym shoes. Make the smart guy take classes from a beaver with a fever? Of course you'd take the rich guy's money but that isn't what made you lucky enough to be born into a world where western ideals created the superior gifts we all enjoy. If you lived by the ideals that made us lucky enough to enjoy the gifts of this advanced civilization what you want to do should put you in jail. You want to take other peoples' money.