[kenmore]

Oh ya... and Stalin was a ballet dancer lol

[kenmore]

Brenda wrote:

Actually, I think this is quite funny...

Quote:

One in 10 think the SS was Enid Blyton's Secret Seven, not Hitler's personal bodyguards

I am sure that if you ask my kids out of the blue what SS is, they would come up with something from TV...

And that coming from a Dutchman... how soon we forget eh?

[Brenda]

kenmore wrote:

Brenda wrote:

Actually, I think this is quite funny...

Quote:

One in 10 think the SS was Enid Blyton's Secret Seven, not Hitler's personal bodyguards

I am sure that if you ask my kids out of the blue what SS is, they would come up with something from TV...

And that coming from a Dutchman... how soon we forget eh?

I'm sorry, but it is not something they get taught in Canadian school at the age they are.


I do agree however, that Canadians think and do more about it than Dutchies.
We try to live with it, remember it, but it is not in our minds everyday. We have 2 days that remind us of the war. May 4th, to remember the fallen, at 8 pm, and May 5th, to remember the day we were liberated. Neither is a national holiday (anymore) tho. May 5th used to be, but now that is just once every 5 years.

[kenmore]

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/sec ... ips/11568/

My father was there for the liberation of Holland, my grandfather and his brother were both taken prisoner..My grandfather was freed, his brother was not..
My kids and my grandkids will know what took place and I won't depend on the school to teach it.. I will see to it... and I am not intending to centre you out Brenda.. I have the upmost respect for the Dutch people.

[Brenda]

kenmore wrote:

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/second_world_war/clips/11568/

My father was there for the liberation of Holland, my grandfather and his brother were both taken prisoner..My grandfather was freed, his brother was not..
My kids and my grandkids will know what took place and I won't depend on the school to teach it.. I will see to it... and I am not intending to centre you out Brenda.. I have the upmost respect for the Dutch people.

I know you dont Thank you

I guess that is the difference though. Your father was there for the liberation, my father was 5 then, and played with bullets. My mother never really noticed anything, other than that food was scarse. Your grandfather WENT to Holland for a reason. It "happened" to the people... If you know what I mean
It sounds stupid, but a lot of Canadians take it a lot more personal than a lot of Dutchies do. At least the ones I know. It is somehow just not an issue, other than in May.

I do think it was a bad decision to not have a day off at Liberation day, so we could really DO something with it. Now it is only the 2 minutes at 8 pm on May 4th that the trains stop, people stop on the shoulder of the highway and people actually shut up. But again, not everybody does it anymore...

Let me make clear that I don't condone it, I am just stating my personal experience...

[ridenrain]

Quote:

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

Every year, the number of good men goes down and we forget what it we were fighting for. It'd not taught in schools because that gets politically touchy because of our diverse multicultural mix. The German kids are tought the war but the Japanese kids arn't and who knows what goes on in the rest. We simply don't have the moral guts to say "this is what we believe and this is what we teach". Instead, we teach ancient history or some other fluff.
If you don't know who you are and where you came from, you can never know where your going. We need to teach these things and there's not enough good people to teach there sons and daughters any more.

[herbie]

Pierre Trudeau was coach of the Leafs last time they won the Stanley Cup.
Sir John A. McDonald invented the cigarette. That's a young Queen Elizabeth on the Export packs.
Speaking of smokes, don't forget to burn the paper off the wrapper and bring the aluminum to any Legion, where they melt them down into artificial limbs for veterans.
Juno Beach was the site of the very first MuchMusic Awards.
The Canadian Pacific Railway was paid for by Americans to deliver whiskey to the Indians.
Concentration camps were run by MinuteMaid.

(teacher friend's heard them all....)

[ridenrain]

herbie wrote:

Pierre Trudeau was coach of the Leafs last time they won the Stanley Cup.
Sir John A. McDonald invented the cigarette. That's a young Queen Elizabeth on the Export packs.
Speaking of smokes, don't forget to burn the paper off the wrapper and bring the aluminum to any Legion, where they melt them down into artificial limbs for veterans.
Juno Beach was the site of the very first MuchMusic Awards.
The Canadian Pacific Railway was paid for by Americans to deliver whiskey to the Indians.
Concentration camps were run by MinuteMaid.

(teacher friend's heard them all....)

Do you want to prove those or just go on record calling it a metafor.

[Mr_Canada]

herbie wrote:

Pierre Trudeau was coach of the Leafs last time they won the Stanley Cup.
Sir John A. McDonald invented the cigarette. That's a young Queen Elizabeth on the Export packs.
Speaking of smokes, don't forget to burn the paper off the wrapper and bring the aluminum to any Legion, where they melt them down into artificial limbs for veterans.
Juno Beach was the site of the very first MuchMusic Awards.
The Canadian Pacific Railway was paid for by Americans to deliver whiskey to the Indians.
Concentration camps were run by MinuteMaid.

(teacher friend's heard them all....)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[martin14]

Brenda wrote:

kenmore wrote:

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/second_world_war/clips/11568/

My father was there for the liberation of Holland, my grandfather and his brother were both taken prisoner..My grandfather was freed, his brother was not..
My kids and my grandkids will know what took place and I won't depend on the school to teach it.. I will see to it... and I am not intending to centre you out Brenda.. I have the upmost respect for the Dutch people.

I know you dont Thank you

I guess that is the difference though. Your father was there for the liberation, my father was 5 then, and played with bullets. My mother never really noticed anything, other than that food was scarse. Your grandfather WENT to Holland for a reason. It "happened" to the people... If you know what I mean
It sounds stupid, but a lot of Canadians take it a lot more personal than a lot of Dutchies do. At least the ones I know. It is somehow just not an issue, other than in May.

I do think it was a bad decision to not have a day off at Liberation day, so we could really DO something with it. Now it is only the 2 minutes at 8 pm on May 4th that the trains stop, people stop on the shoulder of the highway and people actually shut up. But again, not everybody does it anymore...

Let me make clear that I don't condone it, I am just stating my personal experience...

My father was 6, my mother was 4.

My father had his arm broken by a German soldier on the way out,
so he had something to remember.. a scar taking half his forearm

One grandfather in a work camp, the other in hiding.

It wasn't that long ago..

[ridenrain]

It's vital that we remember how close the beast if from the surface.
If it's not Normandy, it shound be Darfur, Rwanda, or Kabul.

[BartSimpson]

My Dutch Jewish neighbor from across the street is in his late 80's and showed me his tattoo not so long ago. Of a family of eight he was the only survivor.

That kids seriously have no idea who Hitler was is truly, truly horrifying.