ridenrain wrote:
Why? How are legal guns related to illegal drugs or human slavery?
How is
The ingestion of things we enjoy and engaging in the most basic of human needs equating with being allowed to own a human constructed instrument of death?
The answer: All things are choices.
ridenrain wrote:
Over 95% of the firearms legally owned in Canada are used in a responsible and law abiding way. There is no point is persecuting the legal minority in an attempt to harm the illegal minority.
I've been clear that I support users growing their own pot, just as I brew my own beer or wine, under the established rules that it's for my own use and/or not for sale.
So what? The majority of pot users (who don't fit your grandmas description) fall into that category but you can't legalize them without basically making it legal for everybody. Just a fact you have not considered.
In addition, why can't non-growers enjoy the same rights? You may be a ubrew customer but you sure as shit do not grow your own barley and hops.
The vast majority of gun owners are legal because
gun ownership and usage is legal Take that away and what do you have. Make drugs legal and you eliminate illegal drug usage.
You simply cannot make a point I cannot defeat.
ridenrain wrote:
I suppose you could draw an analogy between the safe use of illegal handguns and the "safe" use of illegal drugs but I'm not going there because it's too dumb.
No, you won't because it invalidates your argument entirely.
ridenrain wrote:
This is just so dumb I don't know where to start.
This gun - drugs analogy just isn't working so well.
Yes it is. You just think that people should have the right to own weapons that can kill people over the rights of people to ingest substances that affect only themselves, an argument you turn your back on when it concerns things you support like alcohol or tobacco.
ridenrain wrote:
You say over and over again that you don't support a gun ban yet I never see you support the legal ownership. Either you accept civilian ownership or you do not.
It really can't be both.
Actually I do fully support civilian ownership. Ask uwish. I just fight the nonsense that arming the civilian populace is an answer to crime but never have I said people don't deserve the right to own guns.
ridenrain wrote:
I laughed about Toronto's stupid bandaid of handgun bans when the real problem is the drugs and the gangs.
I clearly proved that the gangs that are currently shooting it up in BC are the same ones who were caught for smuggling of BC Pot, drugs and illegal weapons in and out of the US and other countries.
You ridiculed Toronto every chance you got as poor bastards who deserved it then claimed some notion that the handgun ban would eliminate it.
Now you blame illegal drugs for Vancouvers problems (you always blame others) yet fail to see that baning drugs obviously doesn't work.
Drugs and guns. You claim one should be illegal in order to solve the crime problem and the other should be legal to solve the crime problem.
It doesn't actually matter which argument you actually make as you are wrong either way.
That was extremely easy to defeat your logic and argument.
ridenrain wrote:
It would make a difference if it was legal in the US, where the major market and the big money is.. but it's not. Untill the US changes, we're right back to the alcohol prohibition situation we were in before.
The US is not our problem. Their lax gun laws allow illegal guns up here so I see no reason why our lax drug laws should do the same.
They view their guns laws as a constitutional right.
Piss on them for their opinion of our laws.