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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:49 am
 


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Sorry about the double post but this is the one I actually meant to post.

Apparently we're now under investigation for "genocide" by the OAS with our politically correct PM in the vanguard of the accused. 8O

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On Wednesday, one day after the Canadian Prime Minister said Canada had committed genocide against thousands of Indigenous women and girls, the Organization of American States announced it expected Canada to cooperate with its investigation.


This is going to get interesting because if the OAS sides with Trudeau and says that Canada committed "genocide" then as the leader he's also culpable and they have every right to request he be arrested and interned in the Hague for a trial to determine if he was complicit in the alleged genocide. And even if they don't find him guilty, he's made himself a pariah on the world stage. Nobody's gonna want to be photographed or seen dealing with a self confessed genocidal leader.

But what really stings is that, because of our PM's unbridled virtue signalling he has turned Canada from a well respected country into a pariah state that's on the same level of depravity as the 1990's Serbs or the 1914 Ottoman Empire. So, no matter what happens to Trudeau, like it or not Canadians will end up paying for his idiotic public statements.

Well said, Freakin' - again you hit the mark.


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Oh the Sun, always the bastion of responsible journalism.

The notice of investigation was on the 3rd. Trudeau statements happened on the 4th. The investigation is not starting because of what Trudeau said, but because of the report.

That doesn't mean he hasn't made the investigation worse for himself by saying it though.





But this may very well be the reason he admitted to "genocide".


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If Canada wants to be a human rights leader and address the crisis of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, it will first have to acknowledge ongoing genocide, says a leading First Nations lawyer and advocate.

Pam Palmater, chair of Indigenous Governance at Ryerson University, says the prime minister must go further than saying he “accepts” the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls’ findings of genocide.

“It is the most fundamental and important thing that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau could do, to stand up and have the honour and the integrity and the sense of accountability and the commitment to human rights and Native issues, and say: ‘We did this. Canada, we engaged in long-term acts of genocide through our laws, policies and practices. We created this crisis, we accept full responsibility for it.

“And now we’re going to find a way forward and we’re going to be thankful that Indigenous peoples are still willing to work with us despite the fact that we are guilty of this.’”

Palmater, a Mi’kmaq lawyer with standing in the national inquiry, said if Trudeau does not acknowledge Canada’s continued genocide against Indigenous peoples, the prime minister will jeopardize the country’s reputation.



Pam Palmater, Chair of Indigenous Governance at Ryerson University, says Trudeau “needs to stand as a leader” and admit to Canada’s ongoing genocide against Indigenous peoples. APTN file photo.

“Canada is always the one that calls out other countries for their genocide or for their gross violations of human rights,” she says. “However, in order for Canada to retain its integrity and its place in the international community as a defender of human rights and Native rights, then it needs to stand up and say, ‘Listen global community, this is how you do it when you commit a crime.’

“You stand up, you take accountability, and let the chips fall where they may.”

Canada is presently vying for a seat on the United Nations Security Council, where it hasn’t had a spot in two decades.

In the fall of 2020 the UN General Assembly will choose between Canada, Ireland and Norway for the prestigious seat, which carries with it significant diplomatic power on the global stage.

“We are determined to help the UN make even greater strides in support of its goals for all of humanity,” Trudeau said in 2016 when he announced Canada’s bid for the seat.

“My friends, it’s time. It’s time for Canada to step up once again.”

Palmater says Canada “needs to stand as a leader, because if it can’t, then what strength does it have to call on other countries to end their genocides, or their gross violations of human rights?”

On Tuesday reporters continued to press the prime minister on his personal view of the Inquiry’s findings of genocide.

Trudeau doubled down on his talking point that Canada “accept[s] the findings of the commissioners that it was genocide.

“But our focus is going to be, as it must be, on the families, on the communities that have suffered such loss. On the systems that have repeatedly failed Indigenous women and girls across this country.”


But it likely won't end here or with the OAS investigation. Apparently some people won't be happy till our PM admits to his part as leader of Canada in the supposed "ongoing genocide" which, if he really loses his mind and does almost guarantee's that this stink is going to stay with us long after he's gone from the public eye.

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Families of missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls have said they want to hear Trudeau acknowledge Canada’s ongoing genocide of Indigenous peoples.


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But the prime minister said Tuesday that “people are getting wrapped up in debates over a very important, powerful term.”

Pressed further by APTN News at a women’s conference in Vancouver, Trudeau again did not refer to genocide in the present context, situating it only in Canada’s past.

When he did refer to the present, Trudeau called the epidemic of missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls and 2SLGBTQQIA peoples an “ongoing national tragedy.”

During Monday’s ceremony in Gatineau, Que. to mark the national inquiry’s release of the final report, Commissioner Michelle Audette said, “to the people who don’t think there’s a genocide today, we have 1,200 pages.”

After the ceremony Audette told reporters she was “hoping that [Trudeau] would have that courage” to say the word “genocide”.

During his speech at Monday’s ceremony Trudeau didn’t utter the word genocide, despite cries from the audience that he say it.

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On Monday evening Trudeau used the word genocide, but only in the context of the national inquiry’s report.

He still has not officially stated whether he agrees with the Inquiry’s findings.


On Tuesday Liberal Cree MP for Winnipeg, Robert-Falcon Ouellette, made similar comments to the prime minister.

“The contact between Europeans and Indigenous peoples in North America clearly constitutes genocide,” he said in a statement to reporters. “It occurred in 1491 and…we still suffer the ripples of those effects to this day.”

Pressed on whether he thinks genocide is still taking place against Indigenous peoples, Ouellette said, “We’re still suffering the impacts and we suffer a lot of the impacts related to what occurred in contact.”

On Tuesday the national inquiry’s four commissioners released a joint statement saying “the acceptance of our findings of fact by the federal government, especially our finding of genocide, is an acceptance of the truths shared by families and survivors.

“They no longer need to convince others that genocide is a part of Canadian history. We expect that all governments will move forward and promptly implement our Calls for Justice.”

Last month the Canadian Museum for Human Rights (CMHR) changed its policy on the issue of genocide in Canada.

In a May 16 tweet from the museum’s official account, it said the CMHR “considers the entire colonial experience in Canada, from first contact to today, as genocide.”


https://aptnnews.ca/2019/06/05/its-so-i ... -genocide/

Now he won't say "genocide" and is trying to claim that he has never said he agrees with the MMIW inquiry findings. Sorry, but that won't wash. He came out opened his piehole and put himself and the rest of in the crosshairs of world condemnation by using the "genocide" term when it quite clearly didn't fit the parameters.


Unfortunately almost everyone in Canada could see this train wreck coming given Trudeau's complete and utter subjugation to any and all natives complaints. So, now that's he's dragged the rest of us through the mud with him all we can do is hope that when he's called before the OAS inquiry he won't still be the Prime Minister of Canada.

Because, if he can do this kind of damage with one ill spoken word can you image how much damage he can do if he's allowed to flagellate himself for his liberal guilt before the entire world.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:55 am
 


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I agree with Tricks that Liberal journalist Warren Kinsella got his dates wrong and that suggests we need to be on our guard for things like date niggles from Liberal journalism.

Perhaps the Sun should provide greater scrutiny when it allows Liberals to contribute stories.

However I do agree with Kinsella that our leader calling current Canadians committers of genocide doesn't make Justin or us look good to the international community. It was another gigantic boner committed by our Prime Minister. Especially since it was a massively stupid and wrong statement from Trudeau. There is no genocide happening.

There isn't and there wasn't. But that isn't going to stop activists from using the word despite the fact that it is harming their cause. Canadians apparently aren't buying and they shouldn't.


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Sorry about the double post but this is the one I actually meant to post.

Apparently we're now under investigation for "genocide" by the OAS with our politically correct PM in the vanguard of the accused. 8O

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On Wednesday, one day after the Canadian Prime Minister said Canada had committed genocide against thousands of Indigenous women and girls, the Organization of American States announced it expected Canada to cooperate with its investigation.


This is going to get interesting because if the OAS sides with Trudeau and says that Canada committed "genocide" then as the leader he's also culpable and they have every right to request he be arrested and interned in the Hague for a trial to determine if he was complicit in the alleged genocide. And even if they don't find him guilty, he's made himself a pariah on the world stage. Nobody's gonna want to be photographed or seen dealing with a self confessed genocidal leader.

But what really stings is that, because of our PM's unbridled virtue signalling he has turned Canada from a well respected country into a pariah state that's on the same level of depravity as the 1990's Serbs or the 1914 Ottoman Empire. So, no matter what happens to Trudeau, like it or not Canadians will end up paying for his idiotic public statements.

Well said, Freakin' - again you hit the mark.

How do you figure exactly? The whole premise of the post is false.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:41 am
 


The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.


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The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.


No, with such serious allegations we can't waste time with an investigation! We must move straight to sentencing PM Trudeau for being the leader of a country that he says committed genocide! He's complicit with the genocide and HE MUST PAY!!!

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llama66 llama66:
The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.


No, with such serious allegations we can't waste time with an investigation! We must move straight to sentencing PM Trudeau for being the leader of a country that he says committed genocide! He's complicit with the genocide and HE MUST PAY!!!

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llama66 llama66:
The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.


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llama66 llama66:
The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.

But not because of what Trudeau said. He also never said that anything that's happening currently is genocide, ergo, the entire premise is false.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:51 pm
 


llama66 llama66:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
llama66 llama66:
The OAS is investigating the allegations of Genocide.


No, with such serious allegations we can't waste time with an investigation! We must move straight to sentencing PM Trudeau for being the leader of a country that he says committed genocide! He's complicit with the genocide and HE MUST PAY!!!

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The penalty for such an egregious crime against humanity is death


Assuming such a crime took place.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:54 pm
 


Watching the all-Canadian clown show dance around what genocide is and isn't is going to be a comedy act for the ages.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:37 pm
 


Yeah, specifically what he eventually said when challenged was, "“We accept their findings, including that what happened amounts to genocide.”

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... de-comment

I guess if you wanted to waffle and wiggle you could say he was only agreeing with the claims in the report and those culminated in something more like this:

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Chief Commissioner Marion Buller was firm in saying that the deaths and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls was a direct result of a “persistent and deliberate pattern of systemic racial and gendered human and Indigenous rights violations and abuses, perpetrated historically and maintained today by the Canadian state.

“This is genocide,” she affirmed.


But cut the crap. They're both expecting us to believe this current thing they're investigating is the genocide they're talking about. You're not supposed to be challenging their feels with rational thought on their supposed tail end of a pattern. In fact if you did put too much thought into it they'd call you a racist.


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It's like watching Bill Clinton wiggle and squirm when he started going on about what the meaning of the word "is" actually is. Oh, Canada, you poor saps, this is what all your pearl-clutching and moralist grandstanding gets you in the end. [laughat]


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