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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:16 pm
 


Title: Laurier T.A. accuses university of censoring gendered pronoun discussion
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Date: 2017-11-21 11:26:21
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One creepy aspect of this story is that she surreptitiously recorded these people without their knowledge, something that is becoming all too common.


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Sunnyways wrote:
One creepy aspect of this story is that she surreptitiously recorded these people without their knowledge, something that is becoming all too common.


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Lindsay Shepherd record it because she knew what was going to happen and in doing that it exposed a huge problem.

Wilfrid Laurier graduate student delivers a wake-up call
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If you want to understand the intellectual corruption that is eating away at our universities, listen to an audio recording made by a graduate student named Lindsay Shepherd. She is a 22-year-old teaching assistant at Wilfrid Laurier University in Ontario. Every senior administrator and every governor at every campus in the country should listen to it and ask themselves how far the rot has spread.

Ms. Shepherd is doing a master's degree in cultural analysis and social theory. Two weeks ago, she was summoned for a reprimand after a student, or students, complained about offensive material she had introduced in class. She decided to record the meeting on her computer instead of taking notes. Afterward, she took her story to the media, where it hit the headlines. She didn't think about releasing the recording until Global News learned that it existed and asked her for it. It broadcast an abridged version, which went viral. The reaction was widespread shock. Now, the university has a full-blown crisis on its hands.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/lindsay-shepherd-delivers-a-wake-up-call/article37033031/
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Christie Blatchford: Here's where Laurier can stick their apology to Lindsay Shepherd
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Wilfrid Laurier University teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd is undoubtedly a better human being than I am — and at 22, probably a more mature one — and may well accept the raft of apologies now coming her way, but I would tell them all to blow the mea culpas out their various bums.

Shepherd is the 22-year-old graduate student at the school who was recently subjected to a struggle-session-like interrogation by three administrators, declared to be “transphobic” and then sanctioned for having shown a class a short video snippet, from TVO’s The Agenda, which featured the controversial University of Toronto psychology professor Dr. Jordan Peterson talking about the faddish new un-pronouns such as “zie” and “zher.”

Shepherd’s supervising professor, Nathan Rambukkana, even told Shepherd that by showing the video clip neutrally, without the now-requisite denunciation of Peterson, it was basically akin to “neutrally playing a speech by Hitler …”

http://nationalpost.com/opinion/thousands-of-strangers-gave-a-sick-9-year-old-an-early-christmas-he-died-days-after-celebrating
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:08 pm
 


Sunnyways wrote:
One creepy aspect of this story is that she surreptitiously recorded these people without their knowledge, something that is becoming all too common.


She was defending herself in a Kangaroo court type setting. If you're the one being attacked in something like that and you're not taping it you're an idiot.


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You wanna talk about "creepy" though? Kangaroo courts implementing social justice at Universities are creepy.


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Lesson #1: record EVERYTHING
Lesson #2 thru #10: see Lesson #1

It's the only real way anymore to take the bastards down, no matter what side of the icky spectrum they're oozing out from.


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If she hadn't recorded it it would just be her word against theirs. The moment the recording got out the university and the people who tried to bully and intimidated her had to apologize.

In the meeting, Ms. Shepherd is confronted by three superiors who bully her, ignore her version of the story and attempt to intimidate her with veiled accusations. At times, she is reduced to tears. The power imbalance is extreme. The resemblance to a Maoist struggle session – where party zealots gang up on a wrong-thinker and try to force her to confess the error of her ways – is painful.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... e37033031/


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It’s more Kafka-esque IMO, with shades of Orwell thrown in for good measure.

Good for her for going public with this and hopefully she keeps her job and the idiot department heads lose theirs.


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The best way to do these things is via something that I regret having to give Ezra Levant credit for when he taped his meetings with the HRC that was trying to lynch him. Record everything, and absolutely refuse to show up at all to any closed-door meetings at all where recording is not allowed. It's the only thing that will make these actual fascists and unaccountable bureaucracy bully types hesitate about their behaviour.


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The best way to do these things is via something that I regret having to give Ezra Levant credit for when he taped his meetings with the HRC that was trying to lynch him.


Ezra has been all over this one too:



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Thanos wrote:
The best way to do these things is via something that I regret having to give Ezra Levant credit for when he taped his meetings with the HRC that was trying to lynch him. Record everything, and absolutely refuse to show up at all to any closed-door meetings at all where recording is not allowed. It's the only thing that will make these actual fascists and unaccountable bureaucracy bully types hesitate about their behaviour.

Yep record everything from related to work, meetings, review on your performance, being fired or laid off, meetings with Harvey Weinstein etc , record everything because CYA (Cover Your Ass).


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:32 am
 


Sunnyways wrote:
One creepy aspect of this story is that she surreptitiously recorded these people without their knowledge, something that is becoming all too common.


Fuck that: RECORD EVERYTHING!!!!

I have multiple cameras at my desk and on three occasions over the years I've been conveniently accused of what you'd think were crimes against humanity. All three accusations were false and the first two went to pieces when I presented a transcript of what had taken place. The third one was made by who was then our resident political correctness officer (I called her a 'chekist' to her face). She had come to my desk to ask about a routine matter, I answered her question, and then she accused me of all sorts of shit that simply had not transpired.

I was going to be fired and I was placed on administrative leave.

I let it go to the hearing level and at the hearing she swore under oath about her bullshit accusation and then my attorney rolled the video of the actual time-stamped conversation.

Guess who ended up getting terminated? Guess who settled out of court when I filed against her for slander? Guess who got two months as a guest of the state for perjury?

All because I had proof of what had actually happened.

If you find it 'creepy' that people are prepared to defend themselves against assholes then maybe you'll change your mind when some POS falsely accuses you of something you didn't do.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:09 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
Sunnyways wrote:
One creepy aspect of this story is that she surreptitiously recorded these people without their knowledge, something that is becoming all too common.


Fuck that: RECORD EVERYTHING!!!!

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If you find it 'creepy' that people are prepared to defend themselves against assholes then maybe you'll change your mind when some POS falsely accuses you of something you didn't do.


There seems to be a fine line between creepy and Orwellian. If I am being recorded in public, I've sort of gotten used to that. I don't really have the right to not be recorded in public. Like Bart, I imagine most woudn't use the information for anything other than their own purposes.

But when it's the State, or if that video is uploaded to Twitterbook or MyspaceHangouts, and it's run through face recognition software and that information is stored in perpetuity - then I start having a problem with it.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:36 am
 


It's the world we live in. Privacy is dead.

Don't believe me? Ask Edward Snowden.


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BartSimpson wrote:
It's the world we live in. Privacy is dead.

Don't believe me? Ask Edward Snowden.


It's not dead, it's just people are apathetic. If they actually demanded that government do it's job of protecting things like Privacy instead of violating it, then we might not find so much of a creep factor. If we shared in the value our private data brings to companies in the form of revenue, there might not be the hunger to collect it.


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