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Title: Liberals regard June as first chance to defeat Tories
Category: Political
Posted By: mtbr
Date: 2009-02-27 05:51:34
Canadian

[mtbr]

But these same Liberals will give the Obamasiah 8 years. I'm sure they'll be broke by June, those Broadway ads of arrogant Iggy will drain their bank accounts.

"In fact, the government will not have spent any of the stimulus money by the time the March report is released as the budget measures do not take effect until April 1."

so McCallum is only allowing 2 months for stimulus spending to take effect?

what a bunch of power hungry assholes. They don't give a shit about anybody but themselves.

[ridenrain]

Interesting bunch of comments. I guess Jane Taber's political bias has earned her a watchfull eye.

Why non-confidance votes? Once again, the Liberals want to bitch to high heaven about the government but they don't have the balls to actually do any thing about it.

[uwish]

I don't think it will happen. When push comes to shove I think the liberals are smart enough to know the sheeple will be pissed if they force another election.

I think they will pay for it at the voters booth.

[ryan29]

that fact they admit the stimulus measures will not have even started to take effect till april makes there demands in june look a little outrageous . there saying they have 2 months to turn this economy around ? during one of the most unstable and uncertain economic times in years . and most of the provinces are in financial trouble as well , some are running massive deficits .

the liberals continue to demonstrate how out to lunch they are , as canadians do not even want an election and would prefer to see some economic action for the time being and some results , not more bs and definity not our 4th election in 5 years .

[mtbr]

Fiscal update in June,
debate fiscal update,
vote on the fiscal update in June..

have an election in ......July...August?

I think McCallum is back on the bottle and Taber is drinking his backwash.

[ryan29]

who knows what the liberals are thinking , they may not really want an election and only testing the waters . they might have a list or idea of possible chances to try and pull this stunt with june being the first and then other oppurtunities would follow in the fall . with several possible dates i'd be surprised if they did it on first oppurtunity . but this is the liberal party so anything is possible

[hurley_108]

ryan29 wrote:

that fact they admit the stimulus measures will not have even started to take effect till april makes there demands in june look a little outrageous . there saying they have 2 months to turn this economy around ? during one of the most unstable and uncertain economic times in years . and most of the provinces are in financial trouble as well , some are running massive deficits .

the liberals continue to demonstrate how out to lunch they are , as canadians do not even want an election and would prefer to see some economic action for the time being and some results , not more bs and definity not our 4th election in 5 years .

The Tories were out to lunch in September/October, campaigning on arts cuts and tough-on-youth-crime measures when they needed to grow in precisely those areas of Canada where such measures play poorly - namely Quebec. Then they went and provoked a contitutional crisis barely a month into their second government.

There's also a world of difference between "first chance to defeat the government" and "will defeat the government," and you're playing the one up in place of the other.

[SigPig]

This is like when they said that the stimulus wasn't working, and the bidget had barely passed the house.

I am not adverse to them critisizing the tories performance, but saying they aren't doing a good job before the money has time to actually work is excessive. This is not something that will be fixed over night.

[SigPig]

hurley_108 wrote:

Then they went and provoked a contitutional crisis barely a month into their second government.

Wait.....WHO provoked a constitutional crisis??? I am pretty sure that was started by the Libs&NDP. BTW, how is Laytons like of the Libs these days anyways after they claimed to want to work together?? Oh right, they are already running attack ads.

Fail.

[bootlegga]

The one positive benefit that Iggy has over Dion is his smaller representation, which sounds odd but I think is true. Think about it. He can vote against everything that the Cons put forth, and unless he gets full support from both the Bloc and the NDP, the Cons survive.

That takes away RR's argument about the Liberals supporting everything the Conservatives do, simply because they can say (in the next election), well we voted against lower corporate taxes or banning SSM or whatever, but but the Bloc/NDP didn't support us.

Still, I'd like to see everyone get over the last schoolyard pissing contest and just get to work already.

[hurley_108]

SigPig wrote:

hurley_108 wrote:

Then they went and provoked a contitutional crisis barely a month into their second government.

Wait.....WHO provoked a constitutional crisis??? I am pretty sure that was started by the Libs&NDP. BTW, how is Laytons like of the Libs these days anyways after they claimed to want to work together?? Oh right, they are already running attack ads.

Fail.

Harper provoked the crisis by proposing to cut off the subsidy. It was pure reckless brinkmanship. He wanted them to chose between voting him down, and committing political seppuku, and it was blind partisan arrogance that he didn't see that they'd try option "C."

And I'm no fan of the NDP's attack ads against Ignatieff, and have stated such numerous times on this board.

[hurley_108]

bootlegga wrote:

The one positive benefit that Iggy has over Dion is his smaller representation, which sounds odd but I think is true. Think about it. He can vote against everything that the Cons put forth, and unless he gets full support from both the Bloc and the NDP, the Cons survive.

That takes away RR's argument about the Liberals supporting everything the Conservatives do, simply because they can say (in the next election), well we voted against lower corporate taxes or banning SSM or whatever, but but the Bloc/NDP didn't support us.

Still, I'd like to see everyone get over the last schoolyard pissing contest and just get to work already.

That is interesting. I hadn't noticed that the Bloc and NDP went from having fewer combined seats than the Liberals to more. That does shift the influence slightly.

[Bibbi]

I tend to think that it is strictly Liberal rhetoric by Ignatieff to try and prove that he is not going down the down the road of propping up the Conservatives.

Any Liberal leader who supports a completely small c conservative budget that was ideologically partisan without even the smallest amendment has already blown any serious belief from even Liberals that the budget will be defeated in June.

Maybe Ignatieff is a secret closet Conservative!