Responsible gun owners don't kill police men or commit crime with them. Do they really think that some scum bag with a glock who plans on knocking off a 7/11 and maybe shooting his way out is worried about getting it registered?
PublicAnimalNo9
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:25 am
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Liberals who voted for the bill in November weren't punished. But with his proposed reforms, Ignatieff said his caucus will be required to vote against the bill at its third and final reading, which is expected to take place in May.
THIS!!! This is what's fucking wrong with our system. Talk about ZERO representation. For a guy that was out of country for as long as he was, Iggy sure knows how to abuse the parliamentary system and learned to ignore the voters pretty damn quickly. This is also the reason why I quickly correct people that confuse Canada for a democracy. Yeah, I know, Iggy is far from being the only one to pull that shit, but it really makes me wonder why the fuck we even bother voting for MP's when they aren't allowed to represent their constituents. Tow the party line or else....fucking lovely
bootlegga
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:35 pm
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However, the Canadian Police Association, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, and the Canadian Association of Police Boards all support the registry.
RCMP Deputy Commissioner Bill Sweeney has also spoken out in support of the registry.
"I believe that there's compelling evidence that the registry promotes officer and public safety," Sweeney told the Commons public safety committee in March.
Sounds like a good enough reason to keep it.
PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:
Quote:
Liberals who voted for the bill in November weren't punished. But with his proposed reforms, Ignatieff said his caucus will be required to vote against the bill at its third and final reading, which is expected to take place in May.
THIS!!! This is what's fucking wrong with our system. Talk about ZERO representation. For a guy that was out of country for as long as he was, Iggy sure knows how to abuse the parliamentary system and learned to ignore the voters pretty damn quickly. This is also the reason why I quickly correct people that confuse Canada for a democracy. Yeah, I know, Iggy is far from being the only one to pull that shit, but it really makes me wonder why the fuck we even bother voting for MP's when they aren't allowed to represent their constituents. Tow the party line or else....fucking lovely
Parliamentary democracy and the republic from down south are very different types of democracy, but they are still democracy.
BartSimpson
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:40 pm
bootlegga wrote:
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However, the Canadian Police Association, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, and the Canadian Association of Police Boards all support the registry.
RCMP Deputy Commissioner Bill Sweeney has also spoken out in support of the registry.
"I believe that there's compelling evidence that the registry promotes officer and public safety," Sweeney told the Commons public safety committee in March.
Sounds like a good enough reason to keep it.
You're not interested in asking about the fellow's "compelling evidence"? I know I am.
bootlegga wrote:
PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:
Quote:
Liberals who voted for the bill in November weren't punished. But with his proposed reforms, Ignatieff said his caucus will be required to vote against the bill at its third and final reading, which is expected to take place in May.
THIS!!! This is what's fucking wrong with our system. Talk about ZERO representation. For a guy that was out of country for as long as he was, Iggy sure knows how to abuse the parliamentary system and learned to ignore the voters pretty damn quickly. This is also the reason why I quickly correct people that confuse Canada for a democracy. Yeah, I know, Iggy is far from being the only one to pull that shit, but it really makes me wonder why the fuck we even bother voting for MP's when they aren't allowed to represent their constituents. Tow the party line or else....fucking lovely
Parliamentary democracy and the republic from down south are very different types of democracy, but they are still democracy.
True. In Canada the Parliament votes to piss on your rights and that's about final. Down here we take it to court and overturn the Congress and whoever on their gun ban ideas. And to illustrate the point today a number of Americans strapped on their guns and protested to make it understood that they will have their rights one way or the other.
It's a shame Iggy won't allow a free vote. I guess I'll keep voting against the Liberals.
Bodah
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:34 pm
Gotta get keep an eye on those duck hunters, their fucking insane !!!
The gun registry is just another database added to a system that already had a effective databse in place. The gun registry came into effect due to Polytechnique massacre.
So it doesn't matter how many databases you have when it comes to nutjobs.
fifeboy
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:50 pm
PENATRATOR wrote:
Responsible gun owners don't kill police men or commit crime with them. Do they really think that some scum bag with a glock who plans on knocking off a 7/11 and maybe shooting his way out is worried about getting it registered?
However, the Canadian Police Association, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, and the Canadian Association of Police Boards all support the registry.
RCMP Deputy Commissioner Bill Sweeney has also spoken out in support of the registry.
"I believe that there's compelling evidence that the registry promotes officer and public safety," Sweeney told the Commons public safety committee in March.
Sounds like a good enough reason to keep it.
You're not interested in asking about the fellow's "compelling evidence"? I know I am.
No, not really. I don't have the same level of suspicion/paranoia of government officials many Americans seem to have.
BartSimpson wrote:
bootlegga wrote:
PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:
wrote:
Liberals who voted for the bill in November weren't punished. But with his proposed reforms, Ignatieff said his caucus will be required to vote against the bill at its third and final reading, which is expected to take place in May.
THIS!!! This is what's fucking wrong with our system. Talk about ZERO representation. For a guy that was out of country for as long as he was, Iggy sure knows how to abuse the parliamentary system and learned to ignore the voters pretty damn quickly. This is also the reason why I quickly correct people that confuse Canada for a democracy. Yeah, I know, Iggy is far from being the only one to pull that shit, but it really makes me wonder why the fuck we even bother voting for MP's when they aren't allowed to represent their constituents. Tow the party line or else....fucking lovely
Parliamentary democracy and the republic from down south are very different types of democracy, but they are still democracy.
True. In Canada the Parliament votes to piss on your rights and that's about final. Down here we take it to court and overturn the Congress and whoever on their gun ban ideas. And to illustrate the point today a number of Americans strapped on their guns and protested to make it understood that they will have their rights one way or the other.
And that's one of the key differences between Canadians and Americans. You believe in that individual's rights trump everything, while our motto is peace, order, and good government. Unlike Americans, many of us believe that sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.
QBC
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:32 am
fifeboy wrote:
PENATRATOR wrote:
Responsible gun owners don't kill police men or commit crime with them. Do they really think that some scum bag with a glock who plans on knocking off a 7/11 and maybe shooting his way out is worried about getting it registered?
A Glock, I'm sure you can get one on the cheap at any local high school. (And we're talking about the long gun registry, not handguns)
The long gun registry was a joke from the beginning and is made all the more so every time the liberals try and keep it going. They just can't admit it was a poorly conceived idea that had no positive or productive side to it. Not to mention that it made all gun owners perceived as guilty until proven innocent.
DrCaleb
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:32 am
bootlegga wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
bootlegga wrote:
Sounds like a good enough reason to keep it.
You're not interested in asking about the fellow's "compelling evidence"? I know I am.
No, not really. I don't have the same level of suspicion/paranoia of government officials many Americans seem to have.
We can only assume you have not been paying attention.
Billions in funding, to me, requires more than just someone's hunch of a favourable outcome.
gonavy47
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:41 am
Iggy, you ARE the weakest link!
fifeboy
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:07 am
QBC wrote:
A Glock, I'm sure you can get one on the cheap at any local high school. (And we're talking about the long gun registry, not handguns)
Actually, I suspect that a Glock sold on the street is going to go for 2-3 times the shop rate.
QBC wrote:
The long gun registry was a joke from the beginning and is made all the more so every time the liberals try and keep it going. They just can't admit it was a poorly conceived idea that had no positive or productive side to it. Not to mention that it made all gun owners perceived as guilty until proven innocent.
Your opinion and you are entitled to it.
And just for your information, I didn't bring up Glocks. I was just commenting on how expensive they are. Way above my league.
PENATRATOR wrote:
Responsible gun owners don't kill police men or commit crime with them. Do they really think that some scum bag with a glock who plans on knocking off a 7/11 and maybe shooting his way out is worried about getting it registered?
fifeboy
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:18 am
And I suspect that all you anti-registry folks are expecting an overwhelming Harper/Conservative win in the next federal election. And funny thing about that is you will either be proved right or wrong. As the mass of Canadian voters rise up to show their disgust for the Liberals and their policies against sacking the registry.
Actually, Liberal lack of support here will just make people who wouldn't vote Liberal if Steve were caught in the act in a gay brothel say they won't vote liberal. Most Canadians don't give a rats ass about the gun registry and a significant number support it.
PluggyRug
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:04 pm
fifeboy wrote:
Most Canadians don't give a rats ass about the gun registry and a significant number support it.
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