[Newsbot]

Title: Military readies reservists for threats to 'domestic front'
Category: Military
Posted By: SigPig
Date: 2009-03-04 19:16:42
Canadian

[putz]

A good idea in theory. However, the sheer numbers of personnel required to respond for a mass disaster situation would still require the resources and manpower of the regular force as well as the reserve force. Its also all fine to say that reservists are all spread out across the country but last time I checked so was the the reg force too....

[TheQuietKidd]

I don't see any downside to better training and equipping the Reserve Forces, as I imagine that if something goes down, the Regular Forces will appreciate not having to allocate as much man power. I don't think this was to completely free up the Regular Forces, just to help augment their duties within Canada, and I don't see why it wouldn't work in practice.

[Bacardi4206]

Where do I sign up? I'd rather be a Reg Force and do this though. Better pay. Regular force will still get practice in this and will still be on call to response to these right?

Because I'd love to be a soldier when I apply but helping in your own country against threats and saving lives of your own country's citizens instead of saving lives of some other country's. That's great, as long as they are still eligable for Peace keeping missions or even tour of duty's.

[Heavy_Metal]

Bacardi4206 wrote:

Where do I sign up? I'd rather be a Reg Force and do this though. Better pay. Regular force will still get practice in this and will still be on call to response to these right?

Because I'd love to be a soldier when I apply but helping in your own country against threats and saving lives of your own country's citizens instead of saving lives of some other country's. That's great, as long as they are still eligable for Peace keeping missions or even tour of duty's.

forces.ca will give you all the recruiting information you need.

This is a great idea.

[roger-roger]

The retention rate in the reserves is a problem though, you can leave at the drop of a hat. Also for every excellent reservist I know I can think of two that couldnt find their dick with both hands.

[SigPig]

putz wrote:

A good idea in theory. However, the sheer numbers of personnel required to respond for a mass disaster situation would still require the resources and manpower of the regular force as well as the reserve force. Its also all fine to say that reservists are all spread out across the country but last time I checked so was the the reg force too....

Yes the reg force would probably still be needed but at the same time responding to domestic emergencies is what the reserves are there for. It is our primary function within the military and actual training for that scenario has been lacking. We have already seen changes that will help us respond better and our focus now is less on traditional methods of operations but operating within the civilian population at home.

Eisensapper wrote:

The retention rate in the reserves is a problem though, you can leave at the drop of a hat. Also for every excellent reservist I know I can think of two that couldnt find their dick with both hands.

Thats a bit excessive I think. The nature of the reserves does allow certain people to stick around that wouldn't be allowed at the Reg Force level. A lot of that being because the units are simply trying to maintain numbers. But to day it is the minority is wrong because most people want to be there and take pride in what they do. As a result we are able to accomplish our tasks effectively even in spite of the odd person who doesn't know which end is up.

[Yogi]

They missed the one 'domestic threat' that requires immediate attention. That being the gang problem. This would be win-win both for society in general as well as the practical experience the reservists gain.

[martin14]

Yogi wrote:

They missed the one 'domestic threat' that requires immediate attention. That being the gang problem. This would be win-win both for society in general as well as the practical experience the reservists gain.

I hear ya Yogi, but the army isnt supposed to do civilian police work.

That is for other 'countries'

We keep them separate for a reason.

[bootlegga]

putz wrote:

A good idea in theory. However, the sheer numbers of personnel required to respond for a mass disaster situation would still require the resources and manpower of the regular force as well as the reserve force. Its also all fine to say that reservists are all spread out across the country but last time I checked so was the the reg force too....

The Reg Force really isn't spread out all across the country. Many provinces do not have a Reg Force battalion, but quite a few cities in the country have a reserve unit or two. They might be small and under-staffed, but immediate help is far better than waiting several days for the Reg Forces to show up.

I think in an ideal world, the Reserves would twice or three times as large as the Reg Forces.

[Yogi]

martin14 wrote:

Yogi wrote:

They missed the one 'domestic threat' that requires immediate attention. That being the gang problem. This would be win-win both for society in general as well as the practical experience the reservists gain.

I hear ya Yogi, but the army isnt supposed to do civilian police work.

That is for other 'countries'

We keep them separate for a reason.

In every jurisdiction with a gang problem and a local police force the fact is that the police force is incapable of handling the problem. Time to bring in the experts!

[xerxes]

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

-William Adama

[Yogi]

xerxes wrote:

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

-William Adama

I'm not suggesting that we disband municipal police forces, only that they are woefully inadequete in dealing with the gang scourge. The military is 'outfitted and trained', and should be brought in to 'clean up' the situation, go back to their regular duties, and 'remain on-call'!

[bootlegga]

Yogi wrote:

martin14 wrote:

Yogi wrote:

They missed the one 'domestic threat' that requires immediate attention. That being the gang problem. This would be win-win both for society in general as well as the practical experience the reservists gain.

I hear ya Yogi, but the army isnt supposed to do civilian police work.

That is for other 'countries'

We keep them separate for a reason.

In every jurisdiction with a gang problem and a local police force the fact is that the police force is incapable of handling the problem. Time to bring in the experts!

Are you sure you enjoy life in Canada?

Given you penchant for executions, public stonings as entertainment, and using the military to wipe out gangs, wouldn't you be happier in Columbia or Zimbabwe or some other third world banana republic?

[putz]

bootlegga wrote:

putz wrote:

A good idea in theory. However, the sheer numbers of personnel required to respond for a mass disaster situation would still require the resources and manpower of the regular force as well as the reserve force. Its also all fine to say that reservists are all spread out across the country but last time I checked so was the the reg force too....

The Reg Force really isn't spread out all across the country. Many provinces do not have a Reg Force battalion, but quite a few cities in the country have a reserve unit or two. They might be small and under-staffed, but immediate help is far better than waiting several days for the Reg Forces to show up.

I think in an ideal world, the Reserves would twice or three times as large as the Reg Forces.

Most provinces don't have a reg force Bn. But every province does have a base or Wing. I agree too that it is a good idea to immediate help right there. However, I don't think our armed forces as a whole is large enough to start the focus for reserves for domestic and regs for overseas. This day and age both are needed to do each others jobs.