[Newsbot]

Title: Nestle Outbids Township That Wanted Well For Drinking Water
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2016-09-23 10:57:22
Canadian

[shockedcanadian]

Ontario couldn't bid after paying the OPP, giving corporations taxpayers money and building failed windmills. Money for drinking water isn't profitable for the new socialists so it isn't an issue.

If a friend or provincial schlep could have profited from this it would have become an "environmental issue", and the province would have doubled the highest offer.

[BartSimpson]

Now you can buy the water from Nestle at a 4000% markup. Enjoy.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Now you can buy the water from Nestle at a 4000% markup. Enjoy.

4000% ?? That would be a deal! In some places, water is sold for $3 per million litres!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... e27509298/

[BeaverFever]

Just today the province announced that they're looking at moving on this.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e32020945/


But I notice 2 things:

$1:

In Ontario, municipalities, mining companies and golf courses — in addition to the water-bottling companies — are allowed to take a total of 1.4 trillion litres out of the surface and ground water supplies every day

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Golf Courses? Seriously? IS that such an important sector of the economy? How much do you want to bet that's because politicians and "elites" like their golf and country clubs? End the special treatment for golf courses, let them get water like everyone else.

$1:

Ontario charges $3.71 for every million litres of water, compared with $2.50 in British Columbia and $70 in Quebec, the two other provinces with major bottled water operations. But Wynne made it clear she wants to see bottled water companies pay more for the water they take

Holy smokes, $70!! And they're still considered a major bottled water operator? Rest of Canada's getting ripped off and missing out on some serious cash!

[andyt]

IF we charge a proper amount for the water, it becomes part of NAFTA, and we'd have to put all our water up for sale to the highest bidder.

Let's hope they find a solution. One would be legislation that gives municipalities and family users first dibs. Another is to charge very high administrative fees for water that is used to sell for profit.

[martin14]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Just today the province announced that they're looking at moving on this.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e32020945/

Sounds like she is cruising for a family sized bribe to make those rules all go away.

[shockedcanadian]

Why was an old message repeated three times?

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[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

IF we charge a proper amount for the water, it becomes part of NAFTA, and we'd have to put all our water up for sale to the highest bidder.

Let's hope they find a solution. One would be legislation that gives municipalities and family users first dibs. Another is to charge very high administrative fees for water that is used to sell for profit.

The solution is simple. Quit making an absolutely essential resource into a commodity, and then further insulting it by devaluing it by putting it in oil based bottles.
Most bottle water drinkers in North America are morons anyway. They'd rather pay $1.50 for half a liter of the something they get out of their tap for pennies on the gallon, often times of lesser quality.

Fun Fact: An independent lab tested the 10 most popular brands of bottled water sold in Montreal and compared them to the municipal water supply. 7 out of the 10 brands weren't up to the standards of the municipal water supply. Anyone who drank any of those 7 brands would literally get better quality water from their taps.

The fact that these bottling companies still operate and get preference over water sources in Ontario proves that the Ontario Liberals and the Wynned Bag don't give a flying shit about the environment. If they did, we wouldn't have all these useless windmills around actually creating more environmental problems than if they weren't built at all.

There used to be a nice creek behind my place. It was a great place to fish for salmon and trout. In less than a decade the water has dropped to about 6 inches deep. It's killing the fishing because the fish can't make it to their spawning grounds anymore. So my wife and I did some investigating and followed the path of the creek out of the city. It ends at a spring close to an area where one of the bottling companies is busy sucking the water table dry. I can't prove it's the cause, but we also couldn't find any other issue(s) along the river's course that would account for the extreme drop in water levels.

[BeaverFever]

$1:

The fact that these bottling companies still operate and get preference over water sources in Ontario proves that the Ontario Liberals and the Wynned Bag don't give a flying shit about the environmen

$1:

Wynne wants new rules for bottled water industry after Nestle outbids town

The bottled water industry in Ontario is facing renewed government scrutiny after a small township was outbid by multinational giant Nestle in its attempt to purchase a well to secure water supply for its growing community.

Premier Kathleen Wynne said Friday her government will look for ways to put community needs ahead of bottled water corporations.

“As we look at the water bottling industry, that has to be a question because we’re talking about what we could argue is our most precious resource,” she said.

....In her mandate letters to her cabinet, released Friday, Wynne tells Environment Minister Glen Murray that “immediate improvements are needed when it comes to water bottling practices, particularly in the face of climate change, the increasing demands on water resources by a growing population and concerns about water security.”

It’s time to separate bottled water companies from the many other sectors that have water-taking permits, including mining and construction, Wynne told reporters.

“It’s not good enough from my perspective to say there’s lots of industries that need water,” she said.

“Water bottling is a different kind of industry and we need to treat it differently.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... -town.html

[fifeboy]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

andyt andyt:

IF we charge a proper amount for the water, it becomes part of NAFTA, and we'd have to put all our water up for sale to the highest bidder.

Let's hope they find a solution. One would be legislation that gives municipalities and family users first dibs. Another is to charge very high administrative fees for water that is used to sell for profit.

The solution is simple. Quit making an absolutely essential resource into a commodity, and then further insulting it by devaluing it by putting it in oil based bottles.
Most bottle water drinkers in North America are morons anyway. They'd rather pay $1.50 for half a liter of the something they get out of their tap for pennies on the gallon, often times of lesser quality.

Fun Fact: An independent lab tested the 10 most popular brands of bottled water sold in Montreal and compared them to the municipal water supply. 7 out of the 10 brands weren't up to the standards of the municipal water supply. Anyone who drank any of those 7 brands would literally get better quality water from their taps.

The fact that these bottling companies still operate and get preference over water sources in Ontario proves that the Ontario Liberals and the Wynned Bag don't give a flying shit about the environment. If they did, we wouldn't have all these useless windmills around actually creating more environmental problems than if they weren't built at all.

There used to be a nice creek behind my place. It was a great place to fish for salmon and trout. In less than a decade the water has dropped to about 6 inches deep. It's killing the fishing because the fish can't make it to their spawning grounds anymore. So my wife and I did some investigating and followed the path of the creek out of the city. It ends at a spring close to an area where one of the bottling companies is busy sucking the water table dry. I can't prove it's the cause, but we also couldn't find any other issue(s) along the river's course that would account for the extreme drop in water levels.

Well said!

[PublicAnimalNo9]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

The fact that these bottling companies still operate and get preference over water sources in Ontario proves that the Ontario Liberals and the Wynned Bag don't give a flying shit about the environmen

$1:

Wynne wants new rules for bottled water industry after Nestle outbids town

The bottled water industry in Ontario is facing renewed government scrutiny after a small township was outbid by multinational giant Nestle in its attempt to purchase a well to secure water supply for its growing community.

Premier Kathleen Wynne said Friday her government will look for ways to put community needs ahead of bottled water corporations.

“As we look at the water bottling industry, that has to be a question because we’re talking about what we could argue is our most precious resource,” she said.

....In her mandate letters to her cabinet, released Friday, Wynne tells Environment Minister Glen Murray that “immediate improvements are needed when it comes to water bottling practices, particularly in the face of climate change, the increasing demands on water resources by a growing population and concerns about water security.”

It’s time to separate bottled water companies from the many other sectors that have water-taking permits, including mining and construction, Wynne told reporters.


“It’s not good enough from my perspective to say there’s lots of industries that need water,” she said.

“Water bottling is a different kind of industry and we need to treat it differently.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... -town.html

Yeah, you'll notice the Wynned Bag didn't care until things got real public. As for this crap,

$1:

Premier Kathleen Wynne said Friday her government will look for ways to put community needs ahead of bottled water corporations.

Don't "look" for ways, just fucking DO IT!

When a bottling company and a municipality are bidding over water rights, to whom are the bids being made? You guessed it, the Province. So as you can see, the Wynned Bag was perfectly okay with Nestle outbidding a municipality for water rights, until it made headlines. Now suddenly it's "Oh my gosh, we need to look for ways to put community needs ahead of water bottlers."

What a duplicitous twat.

[Jonny_C]

It's all well and good to decry the public affection for bottled water but it seems to be here to stay.

We should continue to point out the benefits of using clean tap water instead, but bottled water is not going to go away.

My solution is simple. Move bottling plants to Northern Ontario. They'll provide needed employment and the (renewable) supply of fresh water won't be a problem. We're not the arid Southwest of the USA, and we shouldn't talk about water supply problems as if we were.