[Newsbot]

Title: New party wants to rule by Internet vote
Category: Political
Posted By: OnTheIce
Date: 2012-08-02 07:27:43
Canadian

[OnTheIce]

I must say, I do like some of their policies and principles. Other parties should take notice.

[bootlegga]

In Don Tapscott's book, The Net Generation, he predicts that many decisions will be made through online interaction, mostly because today's youth wants more say in decision-making and how things work.

[Unsound]

ehhh, not too sure. I kind of like the idea. but really worry about the possibility of mob rule. I can just imagine someone putting a bill before the house that no one under 35 pays taxes and everyone over 35 pays twice as much. How do you think the internet vote on that would go?

[Gunnair]

bootlegga wrote:

In Don Tapscott's book, The Net Generation, he predicts that many decisions will be made through online interaction, mostly because today's youth wants more say in decision-making and how things work.

Interesting and I agree......to a point. I wonder if that demand for interaction would appear if it wasn't made convenient by the internet as we see in say......voting.

[Dragon-Dancer]

I like the concept of this and the idea of keeping representatives in touch with the will of their constituents. As to weather they should have to step down if they don't automatically vote the way those online tell them to vote, I'm not entirely sure that even makes sense. Sometimes the right decision isn't the popular one with the vocal minority. Put a threshold on percentage of constituents participating in these polls before you put any weight behind them.

[TheFonz]

Judging by a lot of newspaper site comments sections etc. This could also mean policy and politicians being voted into place by trolls, yikes.

[OnTheIce]

TheFonz wrote:

Judging by a lot of newspaper site comments sections etc. This could also mean policy and politicians being voted into place by trolls, yikes.

We already have trolls, they're called "lobbyists".

[Unsound]

OnTheIce wrote:

TheFonz wrote:

Judging by a lot of newspaper site comments sections etc. This could also mean policy and politicians being voted into place by trolls, yikes.

We already have trolls, they're called "lobbyists""pundits"

fixed

[bootlegga]

Gunnair wrote:

bootlegga wrote:

In Don Tapscott's book, The Net Generation, he predicts that many decisions will be made through online interaction, mostly because today's youth wants more say in decision-making and how things work.

Interesting and I agree......to a point. I wonder if that demand for interaction would appear if it wasn't made convenient by the internet as we see in say......voting.

In fairness to Mr. Tapscott, he didn't contend internet voting will replace regular voting.

His thought was that future governments will take an issue, provide information and solicit solutions to said problem, with internet voting deciding on the top 3 or 5 or whatever number of solutions to be studied and then the government would decide on its own which solution makes the most sense.

Basically, it's pretty similar to polling voters for their ideas over the phone - it just uses a different medium.

[saturn_656]

Unsound wrote:

ehhh, not too sure. I kind of like the idea. but really worry about the possibility of mob rule. I can just imagine someone putting a bill before the house that no one under 35 pays taxes and everyone over 35 pays twice as much. How do you think the internet vote on that would go?

Even if you were under 35 you'd have to be pretty stupid to go for that.

[Thanos]

Internet polling is one thing. Formulating policy according to the momentary whims of the internet sounds like something that would turn into one of Dante's levels of hell in a heartbeat. Government by 4Chan or Anonymous? Fuck, just detonate all the nukes right now and get it all over with.

[Unsound]

saturn_656 wrote:

Unsound wrote:

ehhh, not too sure. I kind of like the idea. but really worry about the possibility of mob rule. I can just imagine someone putting a bill before the house that no one under 35 pays taxes and everyone over 35 pays twice as much. How do you think the internet vote on that would go?

Even if you were under 35 you'd have to be pretty stupid to go for that.

Never underestimate humanity's capacitiy for stupidity and selfishness.

Maybe more realistic, a bill to put a 4th line scrapper from the leafs on the 5 dollar bill? Internet people have a strange sense of humour sometimes, and often do things just to see if they can.

[Dragon-Dancer]

Unsound wrote:

saturn_656 wrote:

Unsound wrote:

ehhh, not too sure. I kind of like the idea. but really worry about the possibility of mob rule. I can just imagine someone putting a bill before the house that no one under 35 pays taxes and everyone over 35 pays twice as much. How do you think the internet vote on that would go?

Even if you were under 35 you'd have to be pretty stupid to go for that.

Never underestimate humanity's capacitiy for stupidity and selfishness.

Maybe more realistic, a bill to put a 4th line scrapper from the leafs on the 5 dollar bill? Internet people have a strange sense of humour sometimes, and often do things just to see if they can.

Which is why you need at least a few basic safeguards in place. Actually looking at their website is quite interesting, I'm curious to see if they'll manage to get anywhere with it.

[Gunnair]

bootlegga wrote:

Gunnair wrote:

bootlegga wrote:

In Don Tapscott's book, The Net Generation, he predicts that many decisions will be made through online interaction, mostly because today's youth wants more say in decision-making and how things work.

Interesting and I agree......to a point. I wonder if that demand for interaction would appear if it wasn't made convenient by the internet as we see in say......voting.

In fairness to Mr. Tapscott, he didn't contend internet voting will replace regular voting.

His thought was that future governments will take an issue, provide information and solicit solutions to said problem, with internet voting deciding on the top 3 or 5 or whatever number of solutions to be studied and then the government would decide on its own which solution makes the most sense.

Basically, it's pretty similar to polling voters for their ideas over the phone - it just uses a different medium.

Well my point was more to suggest that we seem to have a generation that will go to any length to affect real political change......as long as it is made as easy as possible for them.

Oddly enough, the youth vote - the ones eager to get I'm there and make the system change - seems to be thin these days.