[Newsbot]

Title: Non-Christian prison chaplains chopped by Ottawa
Category: Religion
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2012-10-04 21:29:52
Canadian

[martin14]

Interesting decision, I'm sure lots of people will want to howl about it.

Maybe it's a better choice to cancel all the contracts, and let the religious types figure it out for themselves, without
sucking on the public tit.

[sandorski]

WTF is this shit? Cancel Christian Chaplain services too if Freedom of Religion and Cost is important. Religious Institutions get Tax Breaks already, they should provide these services on their own dime for that reason alone.

[saturn_656]

sandorski wrote:

Religious Institutions get Tax Breaks already, they should provide these services on their own dime for that reason alone.

Great idea.

[Gunnair]

sandorski wrote:

WTF is this shit? Cancel Christian Chaplain services too if Freedom of Religion and Cost is important. Religious Institutions get Tax Breaks already, they should provide these services on their own dime for that reason alone.

Agreed.

[CanadianJeff]

When it comes to religion it's got to be all or nothing. Seems the Harper government forgets that a lot.

[jeff744]

CanadianJeff wrote:

When it comes to religion it's got to be all or nothing. Seems the Harper government forgets that a lot.

Nah, he's trying to avoid offending the christian voters, forgetting that doing this alienates the other religions because it shows favoritism.

[saturn_656]

jeff744 wrote:

CanadianJeff wrote:

When it comes to religion it's got to be all or nothing. Seems the Harper government forgets that a lot.

Nah, he's trying to avoid offending the christian voters, forgetting that doing this alienates the other religions because it shows favoritism.

Since prison inmates form a very small percentage of the population (inmates of religions other than Christianity an even smaller percentage), this action will likely have little in the way of repercussions.

Frankly the government should leave preaching to the officials from the church, mosque, synagogue... whatever.

Spend taxpayer dollars on ventures more worthwhile.

[Hyack]

Non-Christian prison chaplain cuts defended

CBC wrote:

The federal government is defending its decision to cancel the contracts of all its part-time non-Christian prison chaplains, saying it plans to use the same multi-faith model already used in the Canadian Forces.

The cancellations, which will take effect by the end of March 2013, will remove all the part-time chaplains in the federal prison system, leaving about 80 full-time chaplains across the country — all but one are Christian.

On Friday the government issued a statement clarifying the number of contracts affected. The statement says a total of 49 part-time contracts were cancelled, including 18 non-Christian and 31 Christian chaplains.

In question period in the House of Commons on Friday, Conservative MP Candice Bergen, the parliamentary secretary to the minister of public safety, said the remaining full-time chaplains would provide ecumenical multi-faith counselling to all inmates.

[jeff744]

saturn_656 wrote:

jeff744 wrote:

CanadianJeff wrote:

When it comes to religion it's got to be all or nothing. Seems the Harper government forgets that a lot.

Nah, he's trying to avoid offending the christian voters, forgetting that doing this alienates the other religions because it shows favoritism.

Since prison inmates form a very small percentage of the population (inmates of religions other than Christianity an even smaller percentage), this action will likely have little in the way of repercussions.

Frankly the government should leave preaching to the officials from the church, mosque, synagogue... whatever.

Spend taxpayer dollars on ventures more worthwhile.

Doesn't matter about prison, outside of prison the non-christian religion people hearing about this will see it as favoritism.

[saturn_656]

jeff744 wrote:

Doesn't matter about prison, outside of prison the non-christian religion people hearing about this will see it as favoritism.

They probably will.

Lets see if enough of them care for their howls of outrage to be loud enough for the government to shift course.

[jeff744]

saturn_656 wrote:

jeff744 wrote:

Doesn't matter about prison, outside of prison the non-christian religion people hearing about this will see it as favoritism.

They probably will.

Lets see if enough of them care for their howls of outrage to be loud enough for the government to shift course.

Nothing like that, a few votes will change and it will likely become a part of an attack ad, that's about it.

[Curtman]

The ministry of religious freedom's job is to make sure everyone is free to choose Vic Toews' religion.

[peck420]

This is just stupid.

Even the hardcore religious types that I know, think this is stupid.

I think it is time for Canada (all levels of government) to enact a complete break from religions. I honestly don't think that the voting ramifications would be all that severe.

Kind of like when Alberta was forced to allow same sex marriages...there was a collective shrug of shoulders (except for a very small minority of ass hats) and everybody moved on...even though we were touted as the most staunch anti-homosexuality province.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Curtman wrote:

The ministry of religious freedom's job is to make sure everyone is free to choose Vic Toews' religion.

We can always count on you to knee-jerk over a headline.

Quote:

On Friday the government issued a statement clarifying the number of contracts affected. The statement says a total of 49 part-time contracts were cancelled, including 18 non-Christian and 31 Christian chaplains.

Is selective reading anything like selective memory?