[BartSimpson]

Prof_Chomsky wrote:

BartSimpson wrote:

The proposed coup had to do with FDR trying to obviate the US Supreme Court by packing it with more judges - something that was not permitted under the Articles. FDR also had granted himself numerous extra-Constitutional powers and he had arbitrarily done a number of things without the input of Congress.

The prospect of the coup brought FDR back to his senses and in his second term there were no such problems as he worked within the framework of the Constitution.

Yeah umm, that's what I like to call "edited history"...

Call it what you will.

The long and short of it is that when FDR was elected a lot of people were afraid of his tryng to impose socialism and they were afraid of his trying to make himself into a dictator. When FDR got the 'New Deal' through a Democrat-controlled Congress then the fears of socialism were, indeed, realized. The Supreme Court rolled back the portions of the New Deal that exceeded the Constitution's limits on such things and FDR's reaction was to try and pack the court.

Thus there was a gravitas for removing him from office.

The 'coup' was a populist effort that was mostly the work of just one man and it was ironic that this fellow would accuse FDR of being a fascist when what was being proposed by the coup leadership was, itself, fascism.

The coup was not more than a pipe dream but it was enough of a disturbance to get FDR to focus on doing what he could instead of trying to do things that he had no authority to do.

FWIW, FDR may have been a leftie but as a conservative I think he ended up doing a pretty decent job of governing the country and uniting us in WW2.

[bootlegga]

Frankly, Obama's ideas have merit - why are companies rewarded by shipping jobs overseas? Those types of loopholes should be eliminated so that people can get back to work and start paying taxes. His idea for 'international taxes' is a good one too - why let people take their money out of the country to prevent taxes and employ people elsewhere.

The problem is that too many of the ultra-rich are too greedy - $10 billion isn't enough for them, they've got to grow it to $20 billion or $30 billion. Seriously, how much is enough?

I don't have a problem when companies/people do it in a fashion by employing people and making products, but when they ship jobs overseas (and reap the rewards from increased share prices/dividends as a result), they're not really a part of the solution to keep the US on top - they're part of the problem - and a key factor in allowing China to emerge as a global power.

People in the US need to start looking at the next quarter century, and not just the next quarter. The lack of long term vision is killing the US.

[Mr_Canada]

OH NO IT MUST BE CLASS WAR

[andyt]

bootlegga wrote:

Frankly, Obama's ideas have merit - why are companies rewarded by shipping jobs overseas? Those types of loopholes should be eliminated so that people can get back to work and start paying taxes. His idea for 'international taxes' is a good one too - why let people take their money out of the country to prevent taxes and employ people elsewhere.

The problem is that too many of the ultra-rich are too greedy - $10 billion isn't enough for them, they've got to grow it to $20 billion or $30 billion. Seriously, how much is enough?

I don't have a problem when companies/people do it in a fashion by employing people and making products, but when they ship jobs overseas (and reap the rewards from increased share prices/dividends as a result), they're not really a part of the solution to keep the US on top - they're part of the problem - and a key factor in allowing China to emerge as a global power.

People in the US need to start looking at the next quarter century, and not just the next quarter. The lack of long term vision is killing the US.

Obviously I don't disagree. I wonder how Germany does it. They have high labor costs and taxes. Yet, they are an exporting superpower. We should be looking to emulate them. One thing for sure is that they have a much better trained workforce.

[CanadianJeff]

BartSimpson wrote:

andyt wrote:

Better late than never, I guess.

Quote:

Obama said he would ask his attorney general to establish a special financial crimes unit to prosecute those parties charged with breaking the law, and whose fraud contributed to the 2007-2009 financial crisis that plunged the United States into recession.

Only took him 3 years.

He had to make sure that his friends, like George Soros, had covered up their misdeeds before he mentioned the investigation. Also, care to bet that the investigation talk will end immediately after the November election?

See, the problem with Obama's attack on the 1% is that it hurts Democrat politicians and political supporters far more than it does Republicans.

If your statements are true then why even bother trying to start an investigation? The very action you are railing against shows your points are kind of silly doesn't it?

That and why are we suddenly equating Obama with the occupy 1% crowd. We all saw how much he stood up for their rights didn't we?

[BartSimpson]

Mr_Canada wrote:

OH NO IT MUST BE CLASS WAR

Where you have no class I can assure you of your complete safety.