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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:53 pm
 


Title: Ottawa to give 10-year grants to First Nations, with less reporting on how money is spent
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Date: 2017-12-28 11:47:06
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/po ... e37438522/


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"The plan to guarantee long-term funding with a minimum of bureaucratic oversight for 100 First Nations communities by April, 2019 is the first concrete step in what Jane Philpott, the Minister of Indigenous Services, says will be a new fiscal relationship with Canada's Indigenous people."

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It is also a significant shift from the policies of former Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper who raised the ire of chiefs by passing legislation that required First Nations to submit their audited consolidated financial statements and information about salaries and expenses to the government for posting on the Indigenous Affairs website. The Liberal government stopped enforcing that law shortly after taking power in 2015.

Two years later, Dr. Philpott is preparing to give First Nations with a history of good financial management 10-year grants that would provide a single stream of predictable federal funding and allow band councils to spend that money as they see fit. Rather than report back to federal bureaucrats, First Nations leadership would be accountable to their own members. Exact mechanisms for that accountability have yet to be determined and they may largely be left up to First Nations themselves.

"It's a big deal, this change or the possibility of change," Dr. Philpott said in a telephone interview. "Once the money goes to those communities, then they have complete flexibility."

The 10-year grants were among the recommendations of a 17-month study by the Assembly of First Nations and bureaucrats within Indigenous Services. The details of how they would work are still being negotiated with the AFN and financial institutions including the First Nations Financial Management Board, which helps First Nations develop their financial administration and accredits those that adhere to good practices.

As it stands, the average First Nation must submit more than 130 reports to Ottawa every year to qualify for funding from multiple departments including Indigenous Services, Health Canada, Justice, Public Safety and Employment, and Social Development Canada.

Under the new program, said Dr. Philpott, the government would work out how much a community would reasonably expect to receive from all federal sources over the coming decade and then transfer the cash, probably in installments, over the 10-year period.

"The idea is that it would be a move from an overly burdensome reporting mechanism that would come back to the federal government," she said, to a "mutual accountability framework, from a range that we would agree on in advance, in terms of what kind of reporting the nations would do for their citizens."

That reporting could mean that First Nations are required to set sustainable-development goals, such as how many students graduate from high school, and then prove to their own members that they have achieved them, she said.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:55 pm
 


mo' money, mo' money.

It's always about the money.

So, the Injuns are gonna stay poor, drunk, oxcydicted, stupid and fucked up.

Good.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:05 pm
 


This seems unwise.

Says bands with "a good financial track record". What does that mean, exactly?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:02 pm
 


Great. The band leaders will drive around in Escalades while they're own people starve.

Good old Liberal progress right there.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:11 pm
 


martin14 wrote:
mo' money, mo' money.

It's always about the money.

So, the Injuns are gonna stay poor, drunk, oxcydicted, stupid and fucked up.

Good.


They're also going to be reliable votes for the Liberals. :|


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:12 pm
 


Robair wrote:
Says bands with "a good financial track record". What does that mean, exactly?


Fewer people in prison for embezzlement.


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martin14 wrote:
mo' money, mo' money.

It's always about the money.

So, the Injuns are gonna stay poor, drunk, oxcydicted, stupid and fucked up.

Good.

Don't worry they'll always be that way in tiny closed minds like yours.
You racist pig.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:21 pm
 


herbie wrote:
martin14 wrote:
mo' money, mo' money.

It's always about the money.

So, the Injuns are gonna stay poor, drunk, oxcydicted, stupid and fucked up.

Good.

Don't worry they'll always be that way in tiny closed minds like yours.
You racist pig.


The actual racists are the people who create schemes that pander to low expectations and that help to keep the natives in poverty and powerlessness.

In the USA the worst anti-native racists we had were the white liberals at the Bureau of Indian Affairs who tried to keep the various tribes locked in poverty on their reservations. This shit lasted into the 1990's until the US Supreme Court told the BIA to fuck off.

The natives fought for and won the right to launch, operate, and profit from their own enterprises and now most of our tribes are upper middle class and in some cases upper class.

So you want to talk racism?

Here's a reservation in Alberta:

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And here's the Wintun tribe's Cache Creek Rancheria located about 50km from where I am sitting right now:

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The real racism is in giving the natives just enough to survive all while studiously obstructing any effort they might make to succeed on their own.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:15 pm
 


Every state, province, county and municipality gets a level of stable predictable funding from another level of government. That’s how successful communities are able to make long term investments in public infrastructure and services. Funny I don’t hear any of you usual suspects complaining about that. You’re only outraged when non-whites are involved it seems.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:34 pm
 


No, the real racists are people who just can't open their mouths without spewing some stereotypical racial slur. And believe it.

Don't need any bullshit that they're "actually some other people".


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:03 pm
 


Fact is that here in BC we are on unceded land. By law--starting with the King George Proclamation of 1563, they own it. Then there's S 35 of our Constitution recognizing aboriginal rights. Then there is several Supreme Court decisions upholding this. Fact is we never conquered the indigenous peoples here, we never signed treaties--we just moved in. Fact is, we slaughtered whomever stood in the way. Fact is, we took their children from them, ripped them from their others arms in some cases and sent them to residential schools or to white families where they suffered disease, death and abuse. Fact is, we forced their system of government on them, and forced them on to reserves.

The right, after this virtual genocide, chooses to blame them.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:18 pm
 


Zipperfish wrote:
Fact is that here in BC we are on unceded land. By law--starting with the King George Proclamation of 1563, they own it. Then there's S 35 of our Constitution recognizing aboriginal rights. Then there is several Supreme Court decisions upholding this. Fact is we never conquered the indigenous peoples here, we never signed treaties--we just moved in. Fact is, we slaughtered whomever stood in the way. Fact is, we took their children from them, ripped them from their others arms in some cases and sent them to residential schools or to white families where they suffered disease, death and abuse. Fact is, we forced their system of government on them, and forced them on to reserves.

The right, after this virtual genocide, chooses to blame them.

So are you going to get the ball rolling and return your property to it's rightful owner?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:23 pm
 


RUEZ wrote:
Zipperfish wrote:
Fact is that here in BC we are on unceded land. By law--starting with the King George Proclamation of 1563, they own it. Then there's S 35 of our Constitution recognizing aboriginal rights. Then there is several Supreme Court decisions upholding this. Fact is we never conquered the indigenous peoples here, we never signed treaties--we just moved in. Fact is, we slaughtered whomever stood in the way. Fact is, we took their children from them, ripped them from their others arms in some cases and sent them to residential schools or to white families where they suffered disease, death and abuse. Fact is, we forced their system of government on them, and forced them on to reserves.

The right, after this virtual genocide, chooses to blame them.

So are you going to get the ball rolling and return your property to it's rightful owner?



False argument: Since actual damages can’t be undone, you think attempts at restitution are not just not required bu even outrageous?


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