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Title: Pakistan says it downed 2 Indian warplanes, captured pilots
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Date: 2019-02-27 06:49:24


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What could go wrong? 8O


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DrCaleb wrote:
What could go wrong? 8O


I know that's rhetorical but...

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DrCaleb wrote:
What could go wrong? 8O


Pakistan should have asked themselves this question before they enabled the attack in Mumbai a few years ago and now this latest terror attack in India.

I am not a fan of either country but will note that the onus of responsibility for harboring terrorists (or at least turning a blind eye to them) is on Pakistan.

Just like the USA (under Obama no less) went into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden then India likewise has a right and even an obligation to their people to destroy terrorists who use Pakistan as a safe harbor.


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DrCaleb wrote:
What could go wrong? 8O


Pakistan should have asked themselves this question before they enabled the attack in Mumbai a few years ago and now this latest terror attack in India.

I am not a fan of either country but will note that the onus of responsibility for harboring terrorists (or at least turning a blind eye to them) is on Pakistan.

Just like the USA (under Obama no less) went into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden then India likewise has a right and even an obligation to their people to destroy terrorists who use Pakistan as a safe harbor.


For anybody who is interested in the real deal. The pulwama attack was either an inside job or part of the local Kashmiri insurgency. Kashmir the most militarized place on the planet. Inside job because its like saying an ordinary joe loaded up 300kgs of RDX from west bank and drove all the way to downtown Tel Aviv unchecked and then hit a bus travelling in the middle of a big military convoy. If you can believe that is possible. Remember this is an election year in India and the ruling party BJP suffered massive defeat in the recent local electuions and most probably will also face the same fate in the General elections in the next two months, so just like Obama needed a fake encounter of OBL, PM Modi also needed something to fight the election on.

Also if we go for the not an inside job theory. This cannot be classified as a terrorist attack, the target was purely military with 0 civilian loss carried out by the native insurgents. The Indian Army has been brutally cracking down on the native population and the local population is up to their tits with the Indian Army and want independence. The alleged bomber according to his parents was a normal kid until stopped at a checkpoint and just for shits and giggles insulted and humiliated by the Indian army and made to rub his nose in the dirt by them. And according to them he was never the same again.

Instantly after the attack, without proof without any claims by the so called Jaish-e-mohd the alleged terrorist group save for video not shot in Kashmir displaying american weaponry overdubbed in a thick Indian accent not even attempting to lip sync the audio. India held Pakistan responsible for the attack. And then went on a blood lust and war hysteria.

Responding to this our PM sent out a clear message saying if you have any actionable proof that this attack was carried out by someone on this side of the border we will take swift action against them, we want peace,we invite India to come at the peace table, all subjects are open to discussion and lets sort this out BUT if India tries to attempt any misadventures we will not think about retaliating we will retaliate.

So on early hours of Tuesday morning a three pronged attack was launched against Pakistan. One IAF group tried to cross over from Lahore but PAF was already flying CAP missions and intercepted them and they turned back before crossing over. The second IAF group tried to cross over from Sialkot sector but another CAP mission also denied them entry. A third and heavy group was detected on its way over trying to cross the LOC near Muzzafagard sector, A third CAP was scrambled and in the air, but by the time the IAF jets has just skipped over the LOC but when they realize a PAF group was enroute to intercept them they dropped their payload, which hit nothing but a uninhabited mountainside creating a few craters. did a 180 and ran back into Indian Airspace. Jaba Balakot the region where the payload was dropped is less than 10kms from the border

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jaba, ... d73.317812

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Later on TV crews also reached the place. The entire IAF intrusion in Pakistani airspace did not last more than a few minutes.

India claims it hit a "terrorist camp and killed 300 people" but has yet to show a single shred of evidence for that, save for a video on Indian media which later turned out to be a sequence from the video game Arma 2

Today morning, in broad daylight while staying in Pakistani air space, our fighter painted and locked on to Indian military targets but later just fired close to them, a virtual shot across the bow if you will. To let them know we can hit you back if we choose to.

Then they sent in the IAF which once again crossed into Pakistani Airspace, were engaged by PAF and shot down. But the downed pilot is being treated well.



Pakistan has absolutely NO NEED to do stupid shit like the pulwama attack specially at a time like this when were are telling world we are open for business, we want to increase tourism, attract foreign investment, bettering diplomatic ties world over and specially on the day when the Saudi Prince was arriving on a historic visit and signing deals worth $40 billion in a first phase of investment.

They person India said that was the mastermind of the attack has been dead and buried for the last 10 years he was killed in the well know Lal Masjid attack.

Pakistan has suffered the most at the hands of terrorists. After a long 3 year intense military operation named Zarb-e-Azb we finally rid our self of this scurge brought on by joining US's war on terror. Why would we invite them back.

And India itself is involved in cross border terrorism against Pakistan. Watch the interview of captured Indian spy Kulbushan Yadav travelling into Balouchistan from Iran on a fake passport.


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N_Fiddledog wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
What could go wrong? 8O


I know that's rhetorical but...

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Air Canada has temporarily suspended flights to India amid growing tensions between that country and Pakistan. The airline had to turn back a flight en route to Delhi over the Atlantic Ocean and return to Toronto, Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick told the Star in an email Wednesday.


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Air Canada has temporarily suspended flights to India amid growing tensions between that country and Pakistan. The airline had to turn back a flight en route to Delhi over the Atlantic Ocean and return to Toronto, Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick told the Star in an email Wednesday.

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desertdude wrote:
were engaged by PAF and shot down. But the downed pilot is being treated well.


Uh huh.
Tell us, was that before or after the locals beat the shit out of him ?

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Oh and just as an FYI, public displays of prisoners...............

are against the Geneva Conventions.



So congratulations on breaking the civilized rules on the first day. :lol:





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Pakistan has absolutely NO NEED to do stupid shit like the pulwama attack specially at a time like this


It is pretty obvious there are large parts of Pakistan the government has absolutely zero
control over. Hopefully your nuke depots aren't some of them.


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On a more realistic note, that pilot is lucky to be alive considering what he was just up to. People don’t appreciate being bombed unexpectedly. Let’s hope both sides moderate their actions. The open claim of responsibility by JeM for the attack in IOK is a more serious challenge to Khan than Modi. He has to crack down on them without starting a civil war.


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Hello...It's Thursday here....28th Feb

And Pakistanis are all pumped up. Indians, well bad times going for them...Serves them absolutely right. Jingoism and war mongering don't work in front of Pakistan. You can bully Sri Lanka, Bhutan or Nepal/Bangladesh and other rest of South Asian nations but Pakistan is not one of them...You cannot impress us with your shouting or war stuff.

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On a more realistic note, that pilot is lucky to be alive considering what he was just up to. People don’t appreciate being bombed unexpectedly. Let’s hope both sides moderate their actions. The open claim of responsibility by JeM for the attack in IOK is a more serious challenge to Khan than Modi. He has to crack down on them without starting a civil war.


JEM is non existent...Secondly, India has no reason to believe it since she remained enemy of it and enemy plays mind games and these kinda organizations, immediately claim responsibility to enhance their lime light and importance.

Reality is Indians have lost Kashmir...Even the Indian jet that went down in Indian occupied Kashmir, instead of helping Indian pilot, people were chanting pro Pakistan slogans.

Indians to divert blame of their own failed policies, deflected blame to Pakistan.

Sane voices are rising in India...they are saying this is election year in India...And the person who is PM of India right now, is notorious for killing people much to his own benefit...Modi was once banned from entering into US due to his involvement in Gujrat massacre...now he is PM of India...What could go wrong? On the other hand, our PM Khan is statesman...Whole world know him

Pakistanis have the people support of South Asia...From Bangladesh to Nepal everyone is trolling India.....People are saying that good to see there is a country in south asia who can stand up to India...Big ugly bully of region.

martin14 wrote:
Uh huh.
Tell us, was that before or after the locals beat the shit out of him ?

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Oh and just as an FYI, public displays of prisoners...............

are against the Geneva Conventions.



So congratulations on breaking the civilized rules on the first day. :lol:

It is pretty obvious there are large parts of Pakistan the government has absolutely zero
control over. Hopefully your nuke depots aren't some of them.


Well, Kashmiris hate Indians....Now, it is not fault of civilians if Indian pilot landed into their hands :lol:

Thanks to Pak army who is known for its professionalism, saved poor chap from angry civilians...Indian captured pilot praised that

We didn't parade him..We were just taking him into safe location.

Captured Indian Pilot Praises Pak Army For their Hospitality | SAMAA TV | 27 February 2019

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Check the comments of Indians....They got humbled :lol:

As far as some towns/areas not in our control of our own territory?....wake up, you have been wakened up. Update yourself before spouting non sense.

Our nukes are safe and body that overlooks general nuke safety is full of praise

IAEA chief impressed by Pakistan’s nuclear safety standards

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1660030/1-iaea-chief-impressed-pakistans-nuclear-safety-standards/

desertdude wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
DrCaleb wrote:
What could go wrong? 8O


Pakistan should have asked themselves this question before they enabled the attack in Mumbai a few years ago and now this latest terror attack in India.

I am not a fan of either country but will note that the onus of responsibility for harboring terrorists (or at least turning a blind eye to them) is on Pakistan.

Just like the USA (under Obama no less) went into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden then India likewise has a right and even an obligation to their people to destroy terrorists who use Pakistan as a safe harbor.


For anybody who is interested in the real deal. The pulwama attack was either an inside job or part of the local Kashmiri insurgency. Kashmir the most militarized place on the planet. Inside job because its like saying an ordinary joe loaded up 300kgs of RDX from west bank and drove all the way to downtown Tel Aviv unchecked and then hit a bus travelling in the middle of a big military convoy. If you can believe that is possible. Remember this is an election year in India and the ruling party BJP suffered massive defeat in the recent local electuions and most probably will also face the same fate in the General elections in the next two months, so just like Obama needed a fake encounter of OBL, PM Modi also needed something to fight the election on.

Also if we go for the not an inside job theory. This cannot be classified as a terrorist attack, the target was purely military with 0 civilian loss carried out by the native insurgents. The Indian Army has been brutally cracking down on the native population and the local population is up to their tits with the Indian Army and want independence. The alleged bomber according to his parents was a normal kid until stopped at a checkpoint and just for shits and giggles insulted and humiliated by the Indian army and made to rub his nose in the dirt by them. And according to them he was never the same again.

Instantly after the attack, without proof without any claims by the so called Jaish-e-mohd the alleged terrorist group save for video not shot in Kashmir displaying american weaponry overdubbed in a thick Indian accent not even attempting to lip sync the audio. India held Pakistan responsible for the attack. And then went on a blood lust and war hysteria.

Responding to this our PM sent out a clear message saying if you have any actionable proof that this attack was carried out by someone on this side of the border we will take swift action against them, we want peace,we invite India to come at the peace table, all subjects are open to discussion and lets sort this out BUT if India tries to attempt any misadventures we will not think about retaliating we will retaliate.

So on early hours of Tuesday morning a three pronged attack was launched against Pakistan. One IAF group tried to cross over from Lahore but PAF was already flying CAP missions and intercepted them and they turned back before crossing over. The second IAF group tried to cross over from Sialkot sector but another CAP mission also denied them entry. A third and heavy group was detected on its way over trying to cross the LOC near Muzzafagard sector, A third CAP was scrambled and in the air, but by the time the IAF jets has just skipped over the LOC but when they realize a PAF group was enroute to intercept them they dropped their payload, which hit nothing but a uninhabited mountainside creating a few craters. did a 180 and ran back into Indian Airspace. Jaba Balakot the region where the payload was dropped is less than 10kms from the border

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jaba, ... d73.317812

Pictures of the mountain side

Image

Image

Later on TV crews also reached the place. The entire IAF intrusion in Pakistani airspace did not last more than a few minutes.

India claims it hit a "terrorist camp and killed 300 people" but has yet to show a single shred of evidence for that, save for a video on Indian media which later turned out to be a sequence from the video game Arma 2

Today morning, in broad daylight while staying in Pakistani air space, our fighter painted and locked on to Indian military targets but later just fired close to them, a virtual shot across the bow if you will. To let them know we can hit you back if we choose to.

Then they sent in the IAF which once again crossed into Pakistani Airspace, were engaged by PAF and shot down. But the downed pilot is being treated well.



Pakistan has absolutely NO NEED to do stupid shit like the pulwama attack specially at a time like this when were are telling world we are open for business, we want to increase tourism, attract foreign investment, bettering diplomatic ties world over and specially on the day when the Saudi Prince was arriving on a historic visit and signing deals worth $40 billion in a first phase of investment.

They person India said that was the mastermind of the attack has been dead and buried for the last 10 years he was killed in the well know Lal Masjid attack.

Pakistan has suffered the most at the hands of terrorists. After a long 3 year intense military operation named Zarb-e-Azb we finally rid our self of this scurge brought on by joining US's war on terror. Why would we invite them back.

And India itself is involved in cross border terrorism against Pakistan. Watch the interview of captured Indian spy Kulbushan Yadav travelling into Balouchistan from Iran on a fake passport.


You answered very well..Nothing left to say.

R=UP

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Whoever will violate our sovereignty/air space, he will be barbecued just like Indian pilot got - photos circulating in social media here are too graphic to post.

Meanwhile Our PM Khan still saying "better sense should prevail"

Note: Have nothing against common Indian troops...Sadly, there political leadership is not just right...Just to gain votes, soldiers are being used as cannon fodders.

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This Indian academic had predicted a ‘major border confrontation’ with Pakistan will benefit Modi before 2019 elections

The Indian-born academic, who has since now received multiple death threats by radical groups in India, had in December last year predicted a “major border confrontation” with Pakistan which would benefit PM Modi before the upcoming general elections.

Mark my word – In the next 5 months, Modi will smile more in public and will cry more in public. India should be also prepared for a major riot and/or a major border confrontation with Pakistan before the 2019 election,” he had said in a tweet.


Tweet was posted on 11 dec 2018

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/this-indian-journalist-had-predicted-a-major-border-confrontation-with-pakistan-will-benefit-modi-before-2019-elections/

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So, ladies and gentlemen, HISTORY has just recorded the FIRST air to air kill b/w two NUCLEAR POWERS belongs to PAKISTAN AIRFORCE

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Oh and just as an FYI, public displays of prisoners...............

are against the Geneva Conventions.


Since when do you give a shit about the Geneva Conventions? [huh]


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So, ladies and gentlemen, HISTORY has just recorded the FIRST air to air kill b/w two NUCLEAR POWERS belongs to PAKISTAN AIRFORCE

What? That's not true at all. The first downed plane between two nuclear powers was in 1950. Where did you even get that from?

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8 April 1950 Soviet La-11 Fangs, piloted by Boris Dokin, Anatoliy Gerasimov, Tezyaev, and Sataev shot down a US Navy PB4Y-2 Privateer (BuNo 59645) Turbulent Turtle of VP-26, Det A. Based from Port Lyautey, French Morrocco, the Privateer was on a patrol mission launched from Wiesbaden, West Germany. According the to the American account, this incident happened over the Baltic Sea off the coast of Lepija Latvia. The Soviets claimed the aircraft was intercepted over Latvia and fired on the Soviet fighters during the interception. After the fighters engaged the Privateer, the Soviets report that it descended sharply before crashing into the sea 5-10 kilometers off the coast. Wreckage was recovered, but the crew of John H. Fette, Howard W. Seeschaf, Robert D. Reynolds, Tommy L. Burgess, Frank L. Beckman, Joe H. Danens, Jack W. Thomas, Joesph Jay Bourassa, Edward J. Purcell and Joesph Norris Rinnier Jr. were missing and presumed killed.


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There’s a reason Pakistan kept Obama up at night.


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There’s a reason Pakistan kept Obama up at night.


Obama was just acting over smart...Nothing else.

By the way, Russians are not happy right now, probably....As their jets, flown by Indians, got SMACKED

:mrgreen:

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So, ladies and gentlemen, HISTORY has just recorded the FIRST air to air kill b/w two NUCLEAR POWERS belongs to PAKISTAN AIRFORCE

What? That's not true at all. The first downed plane between two nuclear powers was in 1950. Where did you even get that from?

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8 April 1950 Soviet La-11 Fangs, piloted by Boris Dokin, Anatoliy Gerasimov, Tezyaev, and Sataev shot down a US Navy PB4Y-2 Privateer (BuNo 59645) Turbulent Turtle of VP-26, Det A. Based from Port Lyautey, French Morrocco, the Privateer was on a patrol mission launched from Wiesbaden, West Germany. According the to the American account, this incident happened over the Baltic Sea off the coast of Lepija Latvia. The Soviets claimed the aircraft was intercepted over Latvia and fired on the Soviet fighters during the interception. After the fighters engaged the Privateer, the Soviets report that it descended sharply before crashing into the sea 5-10 kilometers off the coast. Wreckage was recovered, but the crew of John H. Fette, Howard W. Seeschaf, Robert D. Reynolds, Tommy L. Burgess, Frank L. Beckman, Joe H. Danens, Jack W. Thomas, Joesph Jay Bourassa, Edward J. Purcell and Joesph Norris Rinnier Jr. were missing and presumed killed.


Will get back to you....

DrCaleb wrote:
martin14 wrote:
Oh and just as an FYI, public displays of prisoners...............

are against the Geneva Conventions.


Since when do you give a shit about the Geneva Conventions? [huh]


He post very ridiculous remarks, always....As if he has already made up his mind against one side..I am sorry but he is quite biased :)


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