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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:03 pm
 


Title: Polar vortex: The science behind the cold
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2019-02-07 10:16:21
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:03 pm
 


We used to call this phenomenon "winter"


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:10 pm
 


llama66 wrote:
We used to call this phenomenon "winter"


Now we call it undeniable proof that the world is too hot.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:13 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
llama66 wrote:
We used to call this phenomenon "winter"


Now we call it undeniable proof that the world is too hot.

Because heat is why I'm freezing my balls off when I go outside. I'd go full Hikikomori is I didn't have to work in the winter months.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:16 pm
 


Yup. If it weren't so hot you wouldn't be so cold. [B-o]


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:23 pm
 


I'd always be hot... and I'm cold as ice.


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BartSimpson wrote:
llama66 wrote:
We used to call this phenomenon "winter"


Now we call it undeniable proof that the world is too hot.


So, which part of the article disagrees with your data?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:09 am
 


Dennis Quaid will save us.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:06 am
 


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:16 am
 


DrCaleb wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
llama66 wrote:
We used to call this phenomenon "winter"


Now we call it undeniable proof that the world is too hot.


So, which part of the article disagrees with your data?


This bit here:

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Increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere cools the polar stratosphere, which could increase the temperature difference between the pole and the equator and strengthen the polar vortex. There's also some model evidence that the waves that are propagating upwards in the troposphere are getting more energetic as the planet warms, leading to a more perturbed polar stratosphere.


doesn't so much "disagree with data" as point out they don't actually have any.

Notice the word "could" and how they all of a sudden are using a "model." A model is supposed to express what the data says not create the data.

Also, explain this one too me:

"carbon dioxide in the atmosphere cools the polar stratosphere"

Where does that come from? What data shows that? Sounds hypothetical.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:36 am
 


True...I thought that CO2 was the mystikal magikal molekule that radiated heat all on its own.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:42 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
True...I thought that CO2 was the mystikal magikal molekule that radiated heat all on its own.


As usual though, he's completely wrong.

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Complex models of the atmosphere show that increased carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations, while warming the surface and troposphere, lead to lower temperatures in the stratosphere and mesosphere. This cooling, which is often referred to as “stratospheric cooling”, is evident also in observations and considered to be one of the fingerprints of anthropogenic global warming. Although the responsible mechanisms have been identified, they have mostly been discussed heuristically, incompletely, or in combination with other effects such as ozone depletion, leaving the subject prone to misconceptions.


https://www.earth-syst-dynam.net/7/697/2016/


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:46 am
 


CO2!! It HEATS!!! It COOLS!! It CAUSES CANCER!! It CURES CANCER!!! It WIPES UP SPILLS AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:50 am
 


I don't understand why that's hard to believe. CO2 absorbs more of the reflected heat off the earth and warms the troposphere (closer to the ground). Since less heat is making it out of the troposphere, since it's being absorbed by CO2, the Strato and Mesosphere cool off.

ITT: Comedy covering ignorance of basic logic and science.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:53 am
 


Tricks wrote:
I don't understand why that's hard to believe. CO2 absorbs more of the reflected heat off the earth and warms the troposphere (closer to the ground). Since less heat is making it out of the troposphere, since it's being absorbed by CO2, the Strato and Mesosphere cool off.

ITT: Comedy covering ignorance of basic logic and science.


So then why argue with us when we taunt you folks with the argument you just reiterated that global cooling is caused by global warming and that it's cold outside only because it's so hot?


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