CKA Forums
Login 
canadian forums
bottom
 
 
Canadian Forums

Author Topic Options
Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Vancouver Canucks
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 16802
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:24 pm
 


Title: Pope exonerates Jews for Jesus' death in new book
Category: Religion
Posted By: xerxes
Date: 2011-03-02 15:11:11


Offline
CKA Elite
CKA Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 4451
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:24 pm
 


Oh how nice of him.


Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
 Calgary Flames
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 5471
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:46 pm
 


2000 years too late but hey, who's counting? :roll:


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 San Jose Sharks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 30248
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:55 pm
 


I'm thinking it didn't need to be said at all.

What I mean is that to 'exonerate' someone you first need to accuse them. In my opinion the Jews did not need to be exonerated of a false accusation, the accusation and the accusers needed to be dismissed as unfounded.


Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
 Vancouver Canucks
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 8545
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:32 pm
 


Who will exonerate the Pope? I won't.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 San Jose Sharks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 30248
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:39 pm
 


sandorski wrote:
Who will exonerate the Pope? I won't.


I'm not a catholic, but I had respect for the last Pope - JPII. This guy...not so much.


Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 6972
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:50 pm
 


I'm confused. I thought Jesus was un-killed a couple of days later anyway, so what the biggie? No harm, no foul.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 26876
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:01 pm
 


BartSimpson wrote:
I'm thinking it didn't need to be said at all.

What I mean is that to 'exonerate' someone you first need to accuse them. In my opinion the Jews did not need to be exonerated of a false accusation, the accusation and the accusers needed to be dismissed as unfounded.

based on the definition of exonerate it means to clear one of a false allegation. so he is in effect condemning Christian treatment of the Jews, and seeing he was the former head of the Inquisition, which was originally set up to deal with heretical Christians and Jews, it's a condemnation of the Church.


Offline
CKA Elite
CKA Elite


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 4598
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:04 pm
 


It's nice to see someone in authority from the Catholic Church having the spine to finally exhonerate an innocent race for an act they never committed. :roll:

But WTF is the Pope doing writing books?

Shouldn't he be rewriting PR&O's so we can get rid of all the pedophile, nun raping priests who're walking around with impunity?


Offline
Forum Elite
Forum Elite
 Edmonton Oilers
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 1743
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:06 pm
 


Personally, I've never understood why anyone would blame the Jews for something that God had ordained. Not their fault if they acted in the way God wanted them to.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 26876
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:11 pm
 


Some Christian sects see Judas the same way, not as a traitor but doing what he was born to do.


Offline
Forum Elite
Forum Elite
 Edmonton Oilers
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 1743
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:15 pm
 


That's kind of how I see it too. According to the story Jesus had to die in order for the rest of us to have a shot at redemption. Judas, Pilate, the Jews, we owe all of them a debt of gratitude for what they did. Atleast, if you believe in redemption thru Jesus you do.


Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 8876
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:22 pm
 


Unsound wrote:
Personally, I've never understood why anyone would blame the Jews for something that God had ordained. Not their fault if they acted in the way God wanted them to.


No one said anti-Semetism requires rationality.


Offline
CKA Super Elite
CKA Super Elite
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 8876
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:25 pm
 


Still, this is a refreshing change after 1500+ plus years of Church ordained persecution of Jews.

It's not from the article, but this quote from the Pope's book is quite illuminating.

Quote:
Now we must ask: who exactly were Jesus’ accusers? Who insisted that he be condemned to death? According to John it was simply “the Jews.” But John’s use of this expression does not in any way indicate – as the modern reader might suppose – the people of Israel in general, even less is it “racist” in character. After all, John himself was ethnically a Jew, as were Jesus and all his followers. The entire early Christian community was made up of Jews. In John’s Gospel this word has a precise and clearly defined meaning: he is referring to the Temple aristocracy.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 26876
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:25 pm
 


it's interesting that while some of the 'villians' in the story were Jewish, all of the heroes and the protagonist himself was a Jew.


Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  1  2  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests




 
     
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © Canadaka.net. Powered by © phpBB.