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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:21 am
 


Title: Prairie farmers struggle as drought set to become among worst in Canadian history
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2021-08-14 10:17:15
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"Worst drought in Canadian History". :(

The 1930's were called the "Dirty 30's" because the drought was so bad the soil blew away. We've learnt things since then, but if crops only come out at 20% - 25% productive, people are going to starve. If the heat doesn't kill them.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:36 am
 


It's awful. :(

There will end up being a call for assistance from the government to help out the farmers affected by this. Maybe instead of pissing away the possible $500 million for an election no one wants this year that money could be put to better use, such as this.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:24 am
 


Paying farmers for crops that fail helps them next year, but doesn't feed people this year. And it's not just Canada, there are other countries experiencing this.

Canada just tends to export things like lentils and chickpeas, so there are going to be shortages in other places.

Plus, no hay for winter for cows and horses, so those animals will have to be slaughtered. Which means fewer animals being born in the spring, so higher meat prices for those who still buy it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:43 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
"Worst drought in Canadian History"


That's the CBC for you.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The 1930's were called the "Dirty 30's" because the drought was so bad the soil blew away.


My late grandfather lived through it. In his eyes, nothing could compare to it, and probably won't for some time (if ever).

Too bad the CBC conveniently forgets large chunks of history.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:01 pm
 


1) I think we should help the farmers and ranchers because the work they do is critical to the survival of society
2) I also think that farmers & ranchers who receive government aid should also not join up with far right-wing politicians who want to gut any and all assistance for the social enemies of conservatives - if conservatives are gonna get some gravy courtesy of the taxpayer, most of whom live in cities, then they shouldn't be rushing off all the time to screw over someone else who needs help just because some utterly malicious social conservative politicians have convinced them all that it has to be done "because if we don't then the world is gonna end!".


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Thanos Thanos:
1) I think we should help the farmers and ranchers because the work they do is critical to the survival of society
2) I also think that farmers & ranchers who receive government aid should also not join up with far right-wing politicians who want to gut any and all assistance for the social enemies of conservatives - if conservatives are gonna get some gravy courtesy of the taxpayer, most of whom live in cities, then they shouldn't be rushing off all the time to screw over someone else who needs help just because some utterly malicious social conservative politicians have convinced them all that it has to be done "because if we don't then the world is gonna end!".


I have absolutely no problem with giving aid to our farmers and ranchers, but your comment about conservative politicians reminds me of something that always bothered me about the way Stephen Harper handled the dismantling of the Canadian Wheat Board.

Why was he so hell-bent on giving it away to the Saudis for a song when there were Canadian farmers willing to pay a higher price and run it as a voluntary co-op? The public purse would have gotten a bigger bang for its buck and we would have had more domestic control of our food production.

The funny thing is, here in central Alberta it rained so much last year that I never even had to take my garden hose out of the basement. I mentioned this to some older friends of mine when we were discussing the droughts, and they said to me that while some farmer friends of theirs were fretting this year about their crops scorching in the heat, last year they were fretting about their crops drowning in all the rain we were getting.

Maybe it's a hopeful sign that this is just a really bad year and that things might be better in 2022. I remember how bad the drought was 20 years ago here in Alberta, where people were organizing the "Say Hay" benefit concerts to transport hay from Eastern Canada to help out Western farmers.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:22 am
 


JaredMilne JaredMilne:
The funny thing is, here in central Alberta it rained so much last year that I never even had to take my garden hose out of the basement.


It's rained here in southern Ontario more often than not. A super hot spring & summer was predicted, but aside from a two or three day heat wave from time to time, we've had more thunderstorms and rain days than anything else.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:33 am
 


CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
"Worst drought in Canadian History"


That's the CBC for you.


You should get something for that restless knee syndrome.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envi ... r-develops
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 145929002/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drought-we ... n-history/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... is-drought
https://www.nytimes.com/article/drought ... tates.html

etc. etc. etc . . .


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The 1930's were called the "Dirty 30's" because the drought was so bad the soil blew away.


My late grandfather lived through it. In his eyes, nothing could compare to it, and probably won't for some time (if ever).

Too bad the CBC conveniently forgets large chunks of history.

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Which chunks of history, exactly?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:44 am
 


I don't have a restless knee. Chronic lower back pain, yes.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:52 am
 


Oh look people will start to remember that farmers feed cities…. For a minute and a half. Then will forget and wonder why prices are high and supply is low!


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CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
I don't have a restless knee. Chronic lower back pain, yes.


-J.


It sure gives a nervous jerk every time you see a link to the CBC.


And, which chunks of history, exactly?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:29 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
And, which chunks of history, exactly?


I was referring to the entirety of the Great Depression and Dirty Thirties.


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