[Biblical_Christian]

well, look at the toy drive they do, they are the nicest citizens around. Not. I have a sister that went out with a former biker. And that guy said those guys are crazy, they will kill kids. And they have.

[HyperionTheEvil]

Pimpbrewski wrote:

Listen,

This is the last comment that I am gonna make about this. It seems that some don't seem to grasp some of the facts, ok, maybe along with a little sarcasm

Also, last time repeating this little comment: If you don't bother them, they, in return, won't fuck with you.

C'mon now !!!

Now, I certainly did not intend to promote their organization. Yea, they might do some illegal activities. Not denying that fact. But as far as they going around hurting people at random, I have not heard of that.

Unless you deal drugs in their ``so called`` territories, or owe them money, they won't touch you.

There are some testimonies from people that had them as neighbours, yet had no complaints about them.

Ill chime in one last time with regards to your comments.

What your saying is essentially that if no one "fucks" with them everyone will be happy> Of course the judge of what is considered "fucking" with the HA is the HA themselves. In the case i provided about the woman insulting a member of the HA then clearly she decided to "fuvk" with them and as a result was killed.

If what i read of your opinion that the reason she was killed was her own fault because she "fucked" with an HA member by perhaps calling him something like a "poo-poo face'?. And how is not beating,stabbing and almost decapitating a woman for insulting you not random?

Further thier 'territories' as you call them have families and Children. Those samw territories will have people who sell the HA illicit drugs and Drug Dealers who have been know to kill randomly for the simple that they can. Further with Drug dealers you get Drug users who also commmit random crimes, usually theft, and sometimes kill doing it to get the money to support the thier habits- which the HA makes money off. And sometimes theose same families and children suffer that fate because they are not lucky enough to have an HA member as a neighbour and instead must live with the what you quaintly refer to "illegal activities" and get caught in the crossfire

The issue people seem to have with you and Zipper is your "they're not all bad" theory. The HA are not just guys with bikes, they are people who are quite sastisfied with destroying other peoples lives as long as they can get rich doing it.


Thats simply called inhumanity

[Zipperfish]

ridenrain wrote:

To effectively see Zipperfish's mindset, you need to see his posts on the legalize pot thread.

Quote:

Freedom IS the end. Unless you prefer piss in a vial in front of government inspectors everytime you want to apply for a job.

Connect his support for decriminalization, his inability to rationally discuss the topic, and this thread, you pretty much build up an image of what the person is about.

Unbelieveable and revolting.

Yeah, it's called freedom, comrade. Like I said, if you don't like, move to Burma.

[Zipperfish]

ziggy wrote:

Well I'll call big time bullshit on this statement.

Quote:

Next to a Hells' Angels house, you'll probably see more Harley bikes and patches on your local off-duty cops than anywhere else.

Riiiiiight.

Cops as patched members
Your loseing it Zip.

Just my experience, that's all. I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of rough elements, including bikers, and worked a lot with cops in my career. I've noticed a lot of similar traits--they're enforcers. I've seen the damage, first-hand, that both can do. When I was a teenager, I watched a biker punt a kitten into a wall and kill it. He was pissed because he'd just got out of the slammer and his girlfriend had ditched him. In high school, I watched the cops bust a guy up for questioning their authority and then plant coke on him to justify putting him in the hospital. I've got more than a few stitches and scars myself from run-ins with cops and bikers.

Enforcers. They're what George Orwell referred to as the dogs in his book Animal Farm and they live in every society--from communist state to police state to democracy--and every subculture within society.

[ziggy]

Zipperfish wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Well I'll call big time bullshit on this statement.

Quote:

Next to a Hells' Angels house, you'll probably see more Harley bikes and patches on your local off-duty cops than anywhere else.

Riiiiiight.

Cops as patched members
Your loseing it Zip.

Just my experience, that's all. I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of rough elements, including bikers, and worked a lot with cops in my career. I've noticed a lot of similar traits--they're enforcers. I've seen the damage, first-hand, that both can do. When I was a teenager, I watched a biker punt a kitten into a wall and kill it. He was pissed because he'd just got out of the slammer and his girlfriend had ditched him. In high school, I watched the cops bust a guy up for questioning their authority and then plant coke on him to justify putting him in the hospital. I've got more than a few stitches and scars myself from run-ins with cops and bikers.

Enforcers. They're what George Orwell referred to as the dogs in his book Animal Farm and they live in every society--from communist state to police state to democracy--and every subculture within society.

Dont tell me you were a stryker?

I read comments from both sides here and have to laugh because it's been the same for a long time,the HA has sympathizers and their mostly the people that dont ever think that lawyer down the road who is a hells Angel would ever do anything illegal.

[TheQuietKidd]

ziggy wrote:

Zipperfish wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Well I'll call big time bullshit on this statement.

Quote:

Next to a Hells' Angels house, you'll probably see more Harley bikes and patches on your local off-duty cops than anywhere else.

Riiiiiight.

Cops as patched members
Your loseing it Zip.

Just my experience, that's all. I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of rough elements, including bikers, and worked a lot with cops in my career. I've noticed a lot of similar traits--they're enforcers. I've seen the damage, first-hand, that both can do. When I was a teenager, I watched a biker punt a kitten into a wall and kill it. He was pissed because he'd just got out of the slammer and his girlfriend had ditched him. In high school, I watched the cops bust a guy up for questioning their authority and then plant coke on him to justify putting him in the hospital. I've got more than a few stitches and scars myself from run-ins with cops and bikers.

Enforcers. They're what George Orwell referred to as the dogs in his book Animal Farm and they live in every society--from communist state to police state to democracy--and every subculture within society.

Dont tell me you were a stryker?

I read comments from both sides here and have to laugh because it's been the same for a long time,the HA has sympathizers and their mostly the people that dont ever think that lawyer down the road who is a hells Angel would ever do anything illegal.

Willful blindness at its best eh?

[ziggy]

TheQuietKidd wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Zipperfish wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Well I'll call big time bullshit on this statement.

Quote:

Next to a Hells' Angels house, you'll probably see more Harley bikes and patches on your local off-duty cops than anywhere else.

Riiiiiight.

Cops as patched members
Your loseing it Zip.

Just my experience, that's all. I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of rough elements, including bikers, and worked a lot with cops in my career. I've noticed a lot of similar traits--they're enforcers. I've seen the damage, first-hand, that both can do. When I was a teenager, I watched a biker punt a kitten into a wall and kill it. He was pissed because he'd just got out of the slammer and his girlfriend had ditched him. In high school, I watched the cops bust a guy up for questioning their authority and then plant coke on him to justify putting him in the hospital. I've got more than a few stitches and scars myself from run-ins with cops and bikers.

Enforcers. They're what George Orwell referred to as the dogs in his book Animal Farm and they live in every society--from communist state to police state to democracy--and every subculture within society.

Dont tell me you were a stryker?

I read comments from both sides here and have to laugh because it's been the same for a long time,the HA has sympathizers and their mostly the people that dont ever think that lawyer down the road who is a hells Angel would ever do anything illegal.

Willful blindness at its best eh?

Well I'm not going to pick side's.
Been on this forum a few years,I can deduce from what I've read on here about members experiences that I,ve probably seen a lot seedier side of life then most here will ever see except on TV.

So I know what the Angels and other bike gangs are all about.

[Zipperfish]

ziggy wrote:

Zipperfish wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Well I'll call big time bullshit on this statement.

Quote:

Next to a Hells' Angels house, you'll probably see more Harley bikes and patches on your local off-duty cops than anywhere else.

Riiiiiight.

Cops as patched members
Your loseing it Zip.

Just my experience, that's all. I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of rough elements, including bikers, and worked a lot with cops in my career. I've noticed a lot of similar traits--they're enforcers. I've seen the damage, first-hand, that both can do. When I was a teenager, I watched a biker punt a kitten into a wall and kill it. He was pissed because he'd just got out of the slammer and his girlfriend had ditched him. In high school, I watched the cops bust a guy up for questioning their authority and then plant coke on him to justify putting him in the hospital. I've got more than a few stitches and scars myself from run-ins with cops and bikers.

Enforcers. They're what George Orwell referred to as the dogs in his book Animal Farm and they live in every society--from communist state to police state to democracy--and every subculture within society.

Dont tell me you were a stryker?

.

Lone rider. Always have been, always will be.