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Title: RCMP admit failure to search for missing skiers was mistake
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: llama66
Date: 2009-02-26 12:27:21
Canadian

[SigPig]

The word "DUH" comes to mind.

[acidcomplex]

once again another fine show of police work. Jesus

[Yogi]

In the very least, somones career should come to a 'screeching halt'! This tradgedy, like most others of such nature was completely avoidable. Starting with the couple themselves. My sympathies lie with the family members 'at home'.

If people would quit going out in the wilderness areas thinking that 'nothing is going to happen' and then if/when something does, blindly trusting that 'they will come looking for us'!

Maybe, no, It is time for mandatory registration with either the park rangers or the nearest RCMP detachment. Register each member in the party, along with an itinerary, and also show proof that each person is properly outfitted to survive shoul any situation arise. The 'party would then be required to notify the authority upon safe return within a resonable time frame. Failure to do so, should result in a hefty fine and possibly a ban from such areas.

[ziggy]

First,were they actually out of bounds? Did they go under the rope?

Second,cant believe they at least didnt have a cell phone or some kind of basic survival kit such as granola bars and a space blanket and matches.

I've done lots of search and rescue's for snowmobilers and could allways be on the trail at least 12 hours or sometimes 24 before the people who did it even got mobile, that's how bad the beuracracy is.
Plus theres a lot af fat ego's that want to run the show and that's why I usually did them alone or with a couple buddy's.
I at least found them live and not dead from exposure or buried in an avalanche.

[bootlegga]

Yogi wrote:

Maybe, no, It is time for mandatory registration with either the park rangers or the nearest RCMP detachment. Register each member in the party, along with an itinerary, and also show proof that each person is properly outfitted to survive shoul any situation arise. The 'party would then be required to notify the authority upon safe return within a resonable time frame. Failure to do so, should result in a hefty fine and possibly a ban from such areas.

I don't think that would have worked in this case, as it sounds like they were skiing at the resort and then went out of bounds and got lost.

Still, after seeing an SOS stamped out in the snow, somebody should have gone looking for them.

Personally, I never go anywhere without a survival kit of some sort, be it in the trunk of my car or in a backpack when I'm hiking in the Rockies.

[ziggy]

bootlegga wrote:

Yogi wrote:

Maybe, no, It is time for mandatory registration with either the park rangers or the nearest RCMP detachment. Register each member in the party, along with an itinerary, and also show proof that each person is properly outfitted to survive shoul any situation arise. The 'party would then be required to notify the authority upon safe return within a resonable time frame. Failure to do so, should result in a hefty fine and possibly a ban from such areas.

I don't think that would have worked in this case, as it sounds like they were skiing at the resort and then went out of bounds and got lost.

Still, after seeing an SOS stamped out in the snow, somebody should have gone looking for them.

Personally, I never go anywhere without a survival kit of some sort, be it in the trunk of my car or in a backpack when I'm hiking in the Rockies.

A cell phone and some matches might have saved their lives.
Too bad they didnt smoke.

[Thanos]

Why do I get the bad feeling that someone's dopey decision to break resort/park rules if just going to twisted into another insipid go-round of police-bashing?

The ultimate sign of a society with no sense of personal responsibility: I did something really fucking dumb but it's all the police's fault for not saving my sorry ass soon enough. Fuck it. I've had enough.

[Yogi]

bootlegga wrote:

Yogi wrote:

Maybe, no, It is time for mandatory registration with either the park rangers or the nearest RCMP detachment. Register each member in the party, along with an itinerary, and also show proof that each person is properly outfitted to survive shoul any situation arise. The 'party would then be required to notify the authority upon safe return within a resonable time frame. Failure to do so, should result in a hefty fine and possibly a ban from such areas.

I don't think that would have worked in this case, as it sounds like they were skiing at the resort and then went out of bounds and got lost.

Still, after seeing an SOS stamped out in the snow, somebody should have gone looking for them.

Personally, I never go anywhere without a survival kit of some sort, be it in the trunk of my car or in a backpack when I'm hiking in the Rockies.

It would have worked, and here is why. If these people ( and all others) at the time they wanted to go skiing at this resort, whether their intention was to go 'out of bounds or not', were required to 'sign out,stating their 'intended run' at say 8 am with a tentative return time of 5 pm with say a 2 hr window, a cursory search would have been started no later than 7 pm on the same day. Now just suppose that 'the skiers' 'forgot' to check back in at the resort office and they were found 'pounding them back' in the lounge etc. a $300.00 fine each might 'help them to remember the next time out. The money would then go towards SAR for time and expense.

[ziggy]

In Nunavut communities like Baker lake,Whale cove and Rankin inlet they have a program for anyone venturing on to the ice to take a portable gps tracking device with them.They just haVE TO GO TO THE LOCAL rcmp,sign a waiver and record of where their going and they get issued one of these devices.

It's a good idea but not many use them and the ones that get lost without one usually die if a ground blizzard roll's in from the hudson's bay while their out on the land.

[acidcomplex]

Thanos wrote:

Why do I get the bad feeling that someone's dopey decision to break resort/park rules if just going to twisted into another insipid go-round of police-bashing?

The ultimate sign of a society with no sense of personal responsibility: I did something really fucking dumb but it's all the police's fault for not saving my sorry ass soon enough. Fuck it. I've had enough.

well this is pretty cut and dry, the rcmp did not launch a search after 3 sos signs were spotted. Thats not the skiers fault. there fault they got lost yes but that doesn't negate the fact that the RCMP should still do its job.

Guess when the firemen get the call about a house on fire they shouldn't go and put it out because maybe it was started by the drunk home owner being stupid. Uh huh

[Thanos]

Yeah, ski resorts are such sedate places where no one ever acts stupidly. I guess we should call out what's left of our army too whenever anyone spots some trampled snow in the out-of-bounds areas. I mean, it's not like some dope-smoking teenage 'boarders or drunken sledders would ever go out-of-bounds and laugh their asses off while the cops and rangers wasted hundreds of man-hours looking for them.

Like I said, this thread is just another excuse for more of CKA's patented anti-police slander. It's always the cops fault, period.

[TattoodGirl]

Going out of bounds means you have to take full responsibility of the risks and to expect a not so rosy outcome.

[Yogi]

Cpl. Dan Moskaluk- RCMP spokesman, stated in a press release on the national news 3 minutes ago that "in a similar situation the RCMP would investigate such a sighting further and in this incident did not. WE made a mistake!

Now how is anyone here 'bashing the cops'???

[RUEZ]

Thanos wrote:

Why do I get the bad feeling that someone's dopey decision to break resort/park rules if just going to twisted into another insipid go-round of police-bashing?

The ultimate sign of a society with no sense of personal responsibility: I did something really fucking dumb but it's all the police's fault for not saving my sorry ass soon enough. Fuck it. I've had enough.

Uh no. I think the lack of response upon seeing an SOS will start the police bashing.