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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:13 pm
Oh well. As long as Viterra execs are happy.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:34 pm
Whelp, time to get out your chequebooks, Mr. Harper just made it so the farmers, justice system, and military need more of your money so companies can pay less.
Harper really went ready, shoot, aim on this one. Hopefully he puts himself in the line of fire next.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:31 pm
Good for the farmers. The CWB would have been illegal were it a private corporation doing exactly what it did so it is only fitting that it should be done away with. 
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:38 pm
BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. The CWB would have been illegal were it a private corporation doing exactly what it did so it is only fitting that it should be done away with.  And now we have to pay to keep our farmers going, just like you guys.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:33 pm
BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. What do you have against farmers??
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:27 pm
Robair wrote: BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. What do you have against farmers?? Seems like farmers win.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:34 pm
jeff744 wrote: BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. The CWB would have been illegal were it a private corporation doing exactly what it did so it is only fitting that it should be done away with.  And now we have to pay to keep our farmers going, just like you guys. Better yet, assert Canada's rights under NAFTA and have the USA stop with the anti-competitive subsidies. With the current political climate in the USA I think you guys could win this one. 
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:48 pm
OnTheIce wrote: Robair wrote: BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. What do you have against farmers?? Seems like farmers win. They won't.
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:50 pm
sandorski wrote: OnTheIce wrote: Robair wrote:
What do you have against farmers?? Seems like farmers win. They won't. Why not?
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:34 pm
jeff744 wrote: BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. The CWB would have been illegal were it a private corporation doing exactly what it did so it is only fitting that it should be done away with.  And now we have to pay to keep our farmers going, just like you guys. We already do, or do you not notice the inflated grocery prices in Canada, especially on supply managed farming sectors?
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:40 pm
commanderkai wrote: jeff744 wrote: BartSimpson wrote: Good for the farmers. The CWB would have been illegal were it a private corporation doing exactly what it did so it is only fitting that it should be done away with.  And now we have to pay to keep our farmers going, just like you guys. We already do, or do you not notice the inflated grocery prices in Canada, especially on supply managed farming sectors? Those are low prices compared to what would actually support the farmers fully.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:33 am
jeff744 wrote: Those are low prices compared to what would actually support the farmers fully. Not really. American farm subsidies are pretty large, but not as large as people assume they are, and, once again, consumers pay less at their local grocery store and supermarket. A majority of American farms do not receive subsidies, and the amount the government pays is a pittance compared to the complete US budget. The US federal budget in 2010 was 3.55 trillion, while (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget) while total US farm subsidies was about...6 billion in 2010 ( http://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips ... itedStates)
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:11 am
commanderkai wrote: jeff744 wrote: Those are low prices compared to what would actually support the farmers fully. Not really. American farm subsidies are pretty large, but not as large as people assume they are, and, once again, consumers pay less at their local grocery store and supermarket. A majority of American farms do not receive subsidies, and the amount the government pays is a pittance compared to the complete US budget. The US federal budget in 2010 was 3.55 trillion, while (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget) while total US farm subsidies was about...6 billion in 2010 ( http://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips ... itedStates) They pay in tax dollars what you pay at the counter, you would be amazed how close to broke a lot of farmers already are.
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:23 am
commanderkai wrote: We already do, or do you not notice the inflated grocery prices in Canada, especially on supply managed farming sectors? No, you don't notice the inflated prices. Milks share of the CPI basket of goods is 0.0047. You pay a few extra dollars per year for your milk. A small price to pay to have a profitable, high quality, stable priced, local farming sector. The alternatives are subsidization or imported food. For anyone with half a brain in their head, paying an extra $50 bucks a year for your milk is a small price to pay for all the positive benefits. Tarzan say "Free market good, marketing board bad". Tarzan needs to take some 4th year econ courses and unlearn some 1st year simplicities.
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