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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:06 am
 


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Halton's Catholic trustees and staff to review fantasy that is `apparently written by an atheist'
Nov 22, 2007 04:30 AM
Kristin Rushowy
Education Reporter

Halton's Catholic board has pulled The Golden Compass fantasy book – soon to be a Hollywood blockbuster starring Nicole Kidman – off school library shelves because of a complaint.

Two other books in the trilogy by British author Philip Pullman have also been removed as a precaution, and principals have been ordered not to distribute December Scholastic book flyers because The Golden Compass is available to order.

"(The complaint) came out of interviews that Philip Pullman had done, where he stated that he is an atheist and that he supports that," said Scott Millard, the board's manager of library services.

"Since we are an educational institution, we want to be able to evaluate the material; we want to make sure we have the best material for students."

Following a recent Star story about the series, an internal memo was sent to elementary principals that said "the book is apparently written by an atheist where the characters and text are anti-God, anti-Catholic and anti-religion."

Millard said if students want the books, they can ask librarians for them but the series won't be on display until a committee review is complete.

The Golden Compass is the first of the "His Dark Materials" trilogy of books and have been likened to the Harry Potter series.

In the U.S., the Catholic League has accused the books of bashing Christianity and promoting atheism to children. The league is urging parents to boycott the movie, which opens Dec. 7.

Catholic schools in Toronto and York Region have the books on their shelves and report no complaints. The public library in Burlington, in Halton Region, lists The Golden Compass as suggested reading for Grades 5 and 6. The award-winning tome was voted the best children's book in the past 70 years by readers across the globe.

While the book was first published in 1995, complaints are surfacing now because of the buzz surrounding the movie, said Rick MacDonald, the Halton board's superintendent of curriculum services.

The Nov. 1 article in the Star prompted several emails from principals wondering if the book is appropriate for schools.

Pullman has made controversial statements, telling The Washington Post in 2001 he was "trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief." In 2003, he said that compared to the Harry Potter series, his books had been "flying under the radar, saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry has said. My books are about killing God."

The board is unsure how many copies of the Pullman books are in circulation at its 37 elementary schools because they were not purchased centrally and are not a part of the curriculum.

"We have a policy and procedure whereby individual, parents, staff, students or community members can apply to have material reviewed. That's what happened in this case," MacDonald said, adding he did not know who lodged the complaint.

The complaint was received about a week and a half ago, and it is standard procedure to remove books from the shelves during the review.

Any move to ban the book would be taken to trustees.

Millard said he's still trying to find additional members for the review committee, but has sent copies to those already on the committee, such as MacDonald.

Milton pastor David Wilhelm, who is also a trustee and a committee member, said hasn't read the book yet and won't make a judgement until he has. He did not know when the review would be done.

Richard Brock, who heads the Halton elementary branch of the Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association, said he's had no complaints from teachers about the books being pulled.

The board, he added, is within its rights to restrict distribution of the Scholastic flyer. "With elementary students, you're always going to bend in the direction of caution anyway," he said.

Scholastic Canada received a complaint via email from the board, as well as a handful of other negative emails that appeared to be part of a campaign begun in the U.S.

Halton's Catholic board has 28,500 students at 45 schools in Burlington, Halton Hills, Milton and Oakville.

Last February, the Dufferin-Peel Catholic District School Board removed the award-winning Snow Falling on Cedars from library shelves and teaching materials after a parent complaint about sexual content, but later reinstated the book after a review.


:roll: Oh no. "Promoting Atheism" to children is wrong eh?

Of course promoting religion isn't?

Atheism has as much a right to be promoted as their religion.


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Is God really so fragile that a book can destroy him?


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Is God really so fragile that a book can destroy him?


Its not the book but the idea and yes, the idea is really that fragile that if people no longer believe then he will no longer exist.


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DerbyX wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
Is God really so fragile that a book can destroy him?


Its not the book but the idea and yes.

The idea is realy that fragile that if people no longer believe then he will no longer exist.


Fer sure eh! Look what happened to the Faerie folk! 8O


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Ah, yes, but all the kids are too busy surfing the net in class for the best way to prepare jimson weed to read those books anyway.


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Wada wrote:
DerbyX wrote:
hurley_108 wrote:
Is God really so fragile that a book can destroy him?


Its not the book but the idea and yes.

The idea is realy that fragile that if people no longer believe then he will no longer exist.


Fer sure eh! Look what happened to the Faerie folk! 8O



And the Leprechauns, they're fecking gone!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:00 pm
 


The trustees need to go and read the book first. Just because crazy Bill Donahue from the US Catholic League says they're bad, it doesn't mean they're bad.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:18 pm
 


I read them, as did my wife. My son read them and they are also at his school's library which is a Catholic school. In the end it is up to the school boards to determine what is appropriate literature for their schools. These Catholics feel the series doesn't fit in with what they are trying to teach, so its their right not to allow it in their libraries. Most kids have it in their own personal collections or can borrow it from a public library. Just because it is popular doesn't mean they have to carry it.


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It's a Catholic school. Aren't they supposed to be anti-anti-God? Since they make no claims of being all-encompassing when it comes to religion (one reason I think they shouldn't be funded by tax money), why should their library do so?


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Good we have enough DX's in the world.


did I say that already ?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:36 pm
 


What a hassle...

First, I'm happy being an atheist,
Then we go see The Chronicles of Narnia, and I switch to christianity
Now I'll go see this and switch back.

It's a private school, isn't it?
If it is, they can choose what books they want.

Are you going to the other private religious schools and bitch at their choose in books?

Is this about the library list of private schools in general or just one christian school?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:40 pm
 


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What a hassle...

First, I'm happy being an atheist,
Then we go see The Chronicles of Narnia, and I switch to christianity
Now I'll go see this and switch back.

It's a private school, isn't it?
If it is, they can choose what books they want.

Are you going to the other private religious schools and bitch at their choose in books?

Is this about the library list of private schools in general or just one christian school?


My main focus was the accusation about "promoting Atheism" as somehow wrong.

The idea that it is wrong must be fought tooth and nail.


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Are you equal opportunity or is this just Christians.
I want to see you're letters promoting atheism to the muslim schools.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:47 pm
 


ridenrain wrote:
Are you equal opportunity or is this just Christians.
I want to see you're letters promoting atheism to the muslim schools.


What muslim schools are you referring to and are there any in the GTA?

Since you claim to be an Atheist but are rarely involved in any of the threads concerning that subject I find your criticism unfounded.

I haven't once withered from promoting Atheism at any muslim posting any different then any religion.

I don't exactly see you as a staunch defender of Atheism.


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