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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:48 pm
 


Title: 'The gig is up': Trump demands Canada dismantle supply management or risk trading relationship
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Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2018-06-09 10:26:34
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:48 pm
 


He actually did say "gig" not "jig", another memorable contribution from the the great man - sorry, I should say....Great Man!!! Probably something from his roadie days. No doubt academics will ponder its significance.

Thank God Dennis Rodman is in Singapore to bring some semblance of sanity to the occasion.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:28 am
 


And now the putrid little quislings merrily get to work, all too eager to give that stab in the back to their own so they can get a pat on the head from the enemy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:59 am
 


I wonder if the US will give up things it manages to keep foreign countries out of, like Military contracts and Infrastructure improvements, now that they've taken steps to shore up their supply management of the Steel and Aluminum industries.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:19 am
 


Thanos wrote:
And now the putrid little quislings merrily get to work, all too eager to give that stab in the back to their own so they can get a pat on the head from the enemy.

Yeah, let's all get behind the pinhead Canada elected, who when the opportunity arose to renegotiate NAFTA decided to try and force his ideological crap onto the US instead of sticking to business.
This is what happens when you intentionally set out to negotiate in bad faith. This is what happens when you try to turn an already exiting trade agreement into some little progtard manifesto.


Canada’s NAFTA strategy is in trouble, to the extent that officials reportedly fear the United States is about to withdraw from the deal.

Canada’s credibility with Americans has been damaged during the past year because political expediency has triumphed over institutional integrity. Understanding how Canada’s credibility has been damaged, and repairing it, will be key to a new start. Cont'd at link.

http://theconversation.com/rebooting-ca ... tegy-89746


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:27 am
 


PublicAnimalNo9 wrote:
Thanos wrote:
And now the putrid little quislings merrily get to work, all too eager to give that stab in the back to their own so they can get a pat on the head from the enemy.

Yeah, let's all get behind the pinhead Canada elected, who when the opportunity arose to renegotiate NAFTA decided to try and force his ideological crap onto the US instead of sticking to business.
This is what happens when you intentionally set out to negotiate in bad faith. This is what happens when you try to turn an already exiting trade agreement into some little progtard manifesto.


Canada’s NAFTA strategy is in trouble, to the extent that officials reportedly fear the United States is about to withdraw from the deal.

Canada’s credibility with Americans has been damaged during the past year because political expediency has triumphed over institutional integrity. Understanding how Canada’s credibility has been damaged, and repairing it, will be key to a new start. Cont'd at link.

http://theconversation.com/rebooting-ca ... tegy-89746


Great find !

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:19 am
 


After the G7 conference broke up Justin got on TV and acted tough towards President Trump...of course Justin intended that bit of kabuki theater just for domestic consumption and instead the President got to see it live as it was taking place. And the President rightfully took it personally because you can bet he's not only well aware of the political campaign being waged against him by the Liberals you can take it for granted that he's hearing their phone calls and reading their mail.

The result was predictable with the President imposing an even harder line on trade than he had before.

But...he did make clear to everyone at the G7 that if they want to go with a regime of no tariffs and no subsidies then he'll reciprocate.

It also casts everyone who won't give up THEIR tariffs as hypocrites when they object to American tariffs.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:36 am
 


Pretty tough situation, What should have happened is/was both should have made a joint statement that BOTH nations would rollback on tariffs. Its would have been a victory for both nations, in my opinion.

As it is, I do agree with the PM that we shouldn't be bullied, especially by what supposed to be our closest ally.

What's not helping is the childish school yard name-calling.

Now we are in a situation where we either toss the dairy industry under the bus or we, as Canadian's go under the bus.

I'm really beginning to hate new politics.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:54 am
 


llama66 wrote:
As it is, I do agree with the PM that we shouldn't be bullied, especially by what supposed to be our closest ally.


That's now a two-way street with President Trump.

If Canada doesn't want to be bullied on trade then don't expect us to go along with being smiled at while Canada comes up with all sorts of excuses why your markets need to be defended with massive tariffs.

Where Trump is heading with all of this is sectoral reciprocity.

That means if you truly want free trade then you lower your barriers to trade and we lower ours. But you don't get to make claims about how your socialized market control programs are so important that you get to justify 270% tariffs because your government has so fucked up your dairy industry that it would die on the vine without protections.

Here's a radical suggestion: Mirror our regulations on the dairy industry to reduce costs to your own so they're competitive with ours. Then they won't need to be protected.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:55 am
 


llama66 wrote:
Pretty tough situation, What should have happened is/was both should have made a joint statement that BOTH nations would rollback on tariffs. Its would have been a victory for both nations, in my opinion.

As it is, I do agree with the PM that we shouldn't be bullied, especially by what supposed to be our closest ally.

What's not helping is the childish school yard name-calling.

Now we are in a situation where we either toss the dairy industry under the bus or we, as Canadian's go under the bus.

I'm really beginning to hate new politics.


I'm not worried, dairy was protected before, quietly it can be protected again.

What is worrying is the complete fail of idiot boy PM and his 'team';

Read the article PA9 put up, great information in there.
And then read the official Communique from the meeting just full of more gender and BLM
nonsense that have absolutely no place from an economic meeting.

Hoping things go better in Singapore.
If they don't and our idiot government doesn't STFU and make a deal soon,
could be a real ugly summer.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:58 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
After the G7 conference broke up Justin got on TV and acted tough towards President Trump...of course Justin intended that bit of kabuki theater just for domestic consumption and instead the President got to see it live as it was taking place. And the President rightfully took it personally because you can bet he's not only well aware of the political campaign being waged against him by the Liberals you can take it for granted that he's hearing their phone calls and reading their mail.

The result was predictable with the President imposing an even harder line on trade than he had before.

But...he did make clear to everyone at the G7 that if they want to go with a regime of no tariffs and no subsidies then he'll reciprocate.

It also casts everyone who won't give up THEIR tariffs as hypocrites when they object to American tariffs.


"The President rightfully took it personally..."

Sheesh. He's a petulant child-king. Of course he took it personally. Taking it personally is all he is capable of. We'll run things our way, thank you very much. I think Trump will find the same with must northern European countries. WE like a bit of socialism thrown in the mix. But, maybe Russia? lol.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 am
 


martin14 wrote:
I'm not worried, dairy was protected before, quietly it can be protected again.

What is worrying is the complete fail of idiot boy PM and his 'team';

Read the article PA9 put up, great information in there.
And then read the official Communique from the meeting just full of more gender and BLM
nonsense that have absolutely no place from an economic meeting.

Hoping things go better in Singapore.
If they don't and our idiot government doesn't STFU and make a deal soon,
could be a real ugly summer.


Well we all know what side you'll be on. Having a shit hemorrhage because somebody burns a Canadian flag, but backs his hero Trump over his country.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 am
 


How are you three (PA9, Martin, Bart) not Oilers fans?

A very serious question?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:01 am
 


BartSimpson wrote:
If Canada doesn't want to be bullied on trade then don't expect us to go along with being smiled at while Canada comes up with all sorts of excuses why your markets need to be defended with massive tariffs.


If anyone likes the Diary marketing board tariffs, then they have no reason to complain
about the Americans doing the same.



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because your government has so fucked up your dairy industry that it would die on the vine without protections.

Here's a radical suggestion: Mirror our regulations on the dairy industry to reduce costs to your own so they're competitive with ours. Then they won't need to be protected.



The Alberta Dairy Farmer President blah blah was on Twitter, oh we have to support PM Sox.
Terrified of the possibility of competition. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:06 am
 


Zipperfish wrote:
We'll run things our way, thank you very much.


And we'll do the same, thank you very much. Feel free to sell your goods to countries that protect their markets every bit as aggressively as you do.

Oh, and prepare to pay tariffs on the oil and agricultural goods that you export to South America via the ports on the US Gulf coast...because they're going to be hit, too.

^^^^^^^

Read that last bit carefully because it also means we'll be imposing tariffs on the oil that you send to us to refine and then reship back to Canada. You might want to build some more refineries ASAP. :wink:


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